Duck, evade, change the subject, scoff, rinse and repeat…
June 24, 2019 at 7:03 am #26614
It continues to amaze me at the sheer stupidity of so many Americans that we are having to sit back and even listen to this sort of half-assed rhetoric that is all talk and no substance whatsoever. And people actually believe it too! People believe that there is still even a debate amongst scientists about the threat of climate change. (There is no debate). Really???
I am stunned and amazed….and I cannot wait to leave this country forever.June 24, 2019 at 7:40 am #26615
Chaney, Pence, Trump, Schlaffy, FOX news, Limbaugh, Coulter etc. No body does bullshit artistry better than them. They could convince thousands overnight that the sky is green or that there is a anti-Christian police force in New York. I am in awe at their ability to know something is pure bullshit, repeat the same lie endlessly…in the face of people holding up swatches to the sky proving it is actually blue, continue the propaganda…and sometimes win their fight. Wow. That is incredible! It is amazing how you can force your will onto people by just denying facts when they are inconvenient.June 24, 2019 at 8:24 am #26616
I seriously wonder if they believe their own bullshit or if they are willingly and purposefully lying to everyone.
I especially wonder about the issue of climate change since it’s going to affect them too. No money or power or status can save you from that. I’ll be laughing when some of their homes are underwater lol
I honestly do not believe that the human race is capable of making the changes necessary to avoid the catastrophe that climate change has upon us. Sadly but truthfully, we have already dug our own grave. I am preparing to become a digital nomad. I think that only nomadic people are going to survive because there are going to be parts of the globe that are uninhabitable during certain parts of the year. Staying in one place is going to become a really stupid idea. I truly believe that if you cannot get up and leave at a moments notice you are going to be more vulnerable. As soon as my son is old enough… That is the planJune 24, 2019 at 8:25 am #26617
I like to think of myself as a climate change prepper lol
June 24, 2019 at 3:32 pm #26620
- This reply was modified 8 months ago by Ivy.
The GOP only cares about money. For example, wasn’t it Pompeo who thought that melting North Pole ice created a shorter route for many ships to reach their ports than having to go through the Panama Canal?
Think of the as the Glass Half Full Party.June 24, 2019 at 4:13 pm #26621
Investment in the future means “profits this quarter to raise all boats”. Well yeah, all boats will actually rise, over decades. What pisses me off is how interest groups–religious like creationists and pro-lifers, corporate lobbyists, most libertarians and many conservatives are wearing blinders that block out real science for their own interests.
WHY do so many Americans still trust those short-term thinking institutions? A large part of it is driven by general distrust of government and global community cooperation, even to the point of imagined conspiracies. Sure, some conspiracies actually exist, but part of their answer is to create their own counter-conspiracy and invent lies that sound sciency enough to fool everyone, including themselves.
Ivy, we need people like you who care enough to stick around and help fight this war of science vs religion, bullshit, snake oil, and self-delusion. I think that humans are naturally prone to crowd-sourced self-righteousness and delusion, unless they’re formally educated in skepticism, reasoning, and scientific methods. Jesus, conservative and religious self-righteous are outright unethical, also in politics. Gerrymandering is an example of government corruption, and… there’s more, but I’ll stop ranting here. Progressives aren’t angels either, and they fail in some science.
I wonder if the devastation of World War II elevated the group consciousness of Europe, but didn’t traumatize USA enough to realize more how we’re all in this together. (Then there’s a rising China to compete with and fear, but even they know there’s long-term profit investing in sustainable-planet sciences, and other sciences.)June 24, 2019 at 4:53 pm #26624
The Whitehouse is an environmental train wreck. Just when we had a chance to turn it around. Coal. Really? Only when the climate fiasco starts hitting the wallets of the fat cats…will we see real change. When multi-million dollar homes become totally uninsurable and are regularly washed away into the sea. There will be untold suffering around the globe and many climate-sensitive plant and animal species will be lost.
Some corporations, companies and local governments have decided to really “green-up”, either as a marketing campaign or because their leadership truly cares about the future. Gives one a little hope, however the rise of animals capable of altering planetary climate may prove to be an evolutionary dead end.June 24, 2019 at 6:06 pm #26626
I still say people like that should be out fighting the wildfires, floods, etc., rather than sit back in their air conditioned offices watching it all…….when they have the bloody time!June 24, 2019 at 6:54 pm #26627
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator
It is difficult to understand the mind-set of people like Roy Moore who is again running for Senate. He must, to some degree, hold the electorate of Alabama in contempt. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo is awaiting the Rapture while Mike Pence is certain he cannot serve two masters. But the biggest threat from within to America must be from the new administrator of the EPA. If you thought Scott Pruitt was bad, wait until Andrew Wheeler really gets going.June 25, 2019 at 4:43 pm #26629
If you thought Scott Pruitt was bad, wait until Andrew Wheeler really gets going.
This is a tragic comedy now, where people who say government is corrupt and damaging get elected, and then make it more corrupt and damaging, often by premeditated intent.June 25, 2019 at 6:21 pm #26630
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator
I sometimes socialize with a few ex-Marines from a customer site. We recently had a conversation about “how the new regime (their term) is suffering from a self-inflicted bad case of swamp fever” and that Trump and his appointees are fast creating threats to the national security of the USA. Externally by dealing with corrupt foreign governments and internally with misguided domestic and fiscal policies. A few beers later one of them looked at me and said ……”and dude we are still sworn to protect our homeland from those threats”. He is going back home to Alabama soon. Not one person had a good word to say about things to the extent that the anger (or at least frustration) was palpable.June 25, 2019 at 6:42 pm #26631
Hey, folks, we Yanks are exploring EVERY STINKING NOOK AND CRANNY OF WHAT the Supreme Court’s long-ago Justice Holmes called the marketplace of ideas.
No previous president has ever had the imagination to require us to do that, so Trump is furthering our educations.June 25, 2019 at 9:24 pm #26634
Go Tom, BE BEST !June 25, 2019 at 10:57 pm #26640
No previous president has ever had the imagination to require us to do that, so Trump is furthering our educations.
Tom, I second the positivitism!June 26, 2019 at 1:38 pm #26644
…Pence says, “We’ll always follow the science…..”
The man clearly can’t read.
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