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@davis the reason your examples from the Bible (or similar to it) just don’t cut it for me is because I KNOW you don’t believe in the Bible. So why even use that as an example if you don’t believe it? It doesn’t add anything to my knowledge of what you would accept because you already don’t accept it.That is a package of rediculous. The evidence I expect is not based on what I believe. It is based on THE CLAIMS that the bible and christianity has made. It is IRRELEVANT whether I believe any of it ahead of time. You have made incredible and very specific claims. Show me the very specific, undeniable incredible events and evidence. and of course, you didn’t answer my question. You weren’t specific. You’ve only adressed a couple of my examples and you weren’t at all specific nor explained any of it.
RE: Further more, tell us what kind of evidence should we as reasonable rational people expect before accepting God might exist. If everything you “believe” has to be “objective” then tell me what kind of experiment would need to be done for you to accept it? There are plenty of scientific studies that have been done that is part of what has satisfied ME so what would satisfy YOU?
I believe that Birdman was a terrible film. That is not based on anything objective. However if i am to base my world view on a very incredible, super specific world view that should limit my freedoms in some way, hand my critical mind over to fed knowledge and taint everything I do and how i see everything then yes. I need objective evidence for this. To expect anything less is preposterous, foolish and extremely dangerous. Also, you didn’t answer my question Belle. You ducked and Dodged it. You answered my question by posing it back to me….without answering it yourself. You first. What kind of evidence SHOULD lead us to accept a great being who is a singular God and the God of the bible. No ducking and dodging please.
…driven by selfish motives…
This is pretty low Belle. It’s clear you hold our expectation of critical analysis and rational evidence in contempt. I assume then that you accept most world views that are told to you. For example that Mohammed was the last prophet of God, Jesus was not divine and the Koran is the final word. I imagine that you don’t apply extreme critical eye to these claims and accept it cause it all seems to make sense and feels right. us applying an extreme critical eye to Jesus, Mohammed, Bhudda is equally “driven by selfish motives”. It must be. Same goes with mythical creatures. We are biased against wood-spirits and Ghosts and expect extremely good evidence before we would expect it….cause of our selfish agenda gainst ghosts and wood-spirits. Do you not see how ludicrous this “driven by selfishness” claim is. And on top of that, pretty unfair considering you are the one asking for very specific examples and brushing away the answers we give without explaining why. Who has the selfish motives here?
Would you go on a pilgrimage to Mecca to honor one of the five pillars of Islam and find a good muslim husband Belle?
YOU DIDN’T ANSWER MY QUESTION. You avoided it. You explained why you accepted God. You did not tell us what kind of evidence WE (or other people who have never heard of this God) should be good enough to believe in the God of the Bible. I’ll put this as clear as possible…and be specific:
What kind of evidence should be enough for a non-believer to accept the God of the Bible is the ultimate supernatural being? Be specific. You asked us for specific concrete examples. Tell us which ones are reasonable. something you cannot dismiss or say is a cliche. Please answer the question I posed.
I think your world view is a delusion, just as I think Islam, Hinduism, Communism, alien abductions are also delusions. But I don’t hold them in contempt. I do hold your ducking and dodging in contempt. Something that mysteriously materialised at about the exact time you admitted your world view. Now it’s the fifth time you’ve avoided a question today.
Would you go on a pilgrimage to Mecca to honor one of the five pillars of Islam and find a good muslim husband Belle?
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