Trump as Manchurian Candidate

[UnseenParticipant]

Simon Paynton wrote:

I don’t know.  Mistakes happen.  I’ve heard the head of the secret service say it was a health and safety issue, why they didn’t put anyone on that roof.  Instead, they secured the inside of the building.

Didn’t want an agent to get sunburn?

Simon Paynton wrote:

Belle Rose wrote:

I think Trump manufactured the whole thing and planned it for sympathy and votes.

I don’t think that’s the case. He would have had to stand there waiting for a bullet to the ear. He might have big shiny round balls, but I don’t see anyone doing a William Tell with such confidence.

Come on, Simon. That the plan was to just graze his ear doesn’t pass the snicker test.  More likely, if it was planned at all, the plan would be to make it simply appear to be an assassination attempt, an attempt that almost went horribly awry.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Unseen wrote:

Didn’t want an agent to get sunburn?

They said the roof was too steep to put an agent on.  However, they sheepishly admitted it wasn’t too steep for the shooter.

That the plan was to just graze his ear doesn’t pass the snicker test.

Spraying the stage with real bullets?  That doesn’t add up at all.

[UnseenParticipant]

Simon Paynton wrote:

Spraying the stage with real bullets?  That doesn’t add up at all.

Ir would still count as an attempt on Trump’s life, a failed one, and give him PR almost as good as the PR he’s getting.

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[UnseenParticipant]

The shooter’s search history reveals that he researched Trump, Biden, and other prominent people as well. His political leanings are confusing, other than that he was a 2nd Amendment fanatic. His high school years were troubled as he was a bullied outsider.

This, more and more, to my mind, he’s appearing to be a troubled suicide-by-cop type who wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, and it probably didn’t matter to him who was speaking there that day as long as they would be important enough to garner the headlines which would write him into the pages of history.

Unfortunately, the AR-15 is not a sniper rifle. It’s designed to spray bullets, not hit a target hundreds of feet away with any degree of accuracy.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Unseen wrote:

suicide-by-cop

That makes the most sense to me.  Maybe he wanted to make an impact at the same time.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Here is an interesting new paper giving insight into the polarisation process.  People think their political opponents are capable of terrible moral infringements.  As opposed to, say, cheating, lying, bullying, vindictive, Machiavellian and self-serving, which is what Trump really is.

https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/3/7/pgae244/7712370

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

This, more and more, to my mind, he’s appearing to be a troubled suicide-by-cop type who wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, and it probably didn’t matter to him who was speaking there that day as long as they would be important enough to garner the headlines which would write him into the pages of history.

That is what I thought from the start when I first read about him.

[Belle RoseParticipant]

Look at the video…I mean really. Trump is like “Look at this chart over here….” Turns his head and grazes his ear. If it was a serious assassination attempt he would have used a better rifle. This guys wasn’t a complete rookie to shooting. I think Trump TOTALLY  planned it in a way no one would suspect….well….almost no one. He has most people fooled! It really is total convenient timing. Watch his speech tonight as he basques in the glow of adoration as being the new RNC’s martyr. You’ll see 😂

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Unseen wrote:

…..the AR-15 is not a sniper rifle. It’s designed to spray bullets, not hit a target hundreds of feet away with any degree of accuracy.

I’ve heard a lot of that this week….and it is not true.  A typical basic commercial AR-15 does 5 shot groups of 1.5 MOA (roughly 1.5″ variation at 100 yards). I read the shooter was less than 500 feet away. He could expect accuracy to within 2″ at that range, assuming he dialed in his sights for windage. A pro would have aimed at the center of the chest, not the head.

Keep in mind every Marine must hit a minimum of 5 out of 10 body sized targets at three times that distance (500 meters = 1640.42 ft) with that rifle to graduate bootcamp and they often have guys who rarely miss at that range.

 

[Belle RoseParticipant]

By the time people figure out that it was/is a hoax planned and orchestrated by Trump himself, it will be too late. The dictator will have already taken over.

And he’s “immune.” Remember?

Adios the USA as we know it.

[Belle RoseParticipant]

Is it just me? Or does it feel like the US is the victim of an abusive relationship currently being pulled back into the same abusive relationship with its malignant narcissist of an ex husband only to be beaten up and left for dead…..again.

“Don’t fall for it Sally! He’s no good for you! He’ll never change!!”

 

[jakelafortParticipant]

Gonna be interesting if Trump is elected whether he becomes the vicious dictator and destroyer of American democracy (such as it is) that the democrats have been portraying.

And if the assasination attempt was real and he was a snot hair from being toasted will it alter his personality. Seems to me there have been some historical figures who became paranoid and vicious after failed assasinations attempts.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Belle Rose wrote:

the US is the victim of an abusive relationship currently being pulled back into the same abusive relationship with its malignant narcissist of an ex husband only to be beaten up and left for dead…..again

I think it’s worse than that.  He’s hijacked the minds of millions and turned them into his willing bots.  But for them, there is not really a downside.  If I spend my life thinking and talking crap, does that really hurt me?

[jakelafortParticipant]

Hijacked minds?

Naah. He is just the right guy to exploit the zeitgeist.

They were holding out for a hero. Such charisma. I mean i don’t see it. Hitler i see the charisma and he also was the right guy/right time to exploit the zeitgeist except a far greater percentage was behind him and deifying him. First time i listened to Trump i thought that guy is a buffoon with a terrible mind. I mean piss poor. No way he’d be smart enough to be a lawyer and honestly it does not take much to become one.

You want to see highjacking go to a mosque and any Islamic nation.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

jakelafort wrote:

You want to see highjacking go to a mosque and any Islamic nation.

It’s a lot like a religion.  I don’t think it’s a coincidence that a lot of his fan base is Evangelical Christians.

Trump doesn’t need to be intelligent to control people’s minds.  All the ingredients are there in his personality (disorder) – controlling, manipulative, etc.  He’s talented at telling people what they want to hear, even when he has no interest in it himself.  Apparently, MAGA people trust him more than they trust their own families and friends.

William Lane Craig was supporting him until the Capitol riots.  Even he sold his soul to the Devil, because he was charmed by the promise of power for the Evangelicals.

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