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Robert writes…….but damn…they could be some incredibly entitled, righteous bastards.

That is exactly what i was trying to convey. But on top of that it was the English and other colonizers who had the burden of imparting their superior culture. Kipling is a good writer but he reflected White man’s burden Lloyd.

Just looked it up. My association of the phrase with Kipling was spot on but it is a poem which i forgot. That guy google knows everything.

Take up the White Man’s burden—

Send forth the best ye breed—

Go send your sons to exile

To serve your captives’ need

To wait in heavy harness

On fluttered folk and wild—

Your new-caught, sullen…[Read more]

Robert ya got the reference. My sense is that it is Rudyard Kipling or at least his mien.

Davis, the British fucked over a great many people. Ever read about their role in the Irish famine? It is not just their colonialism. White man’s burden, Lloyd. The thing is some Jews never left Palestine. And after the diaspora and various rounds of persecution Jews returned to Palestine. Jews were thrown out of England and France. Forgot the…[Read more]

How can we have any confidence youngsters will live out their natural lives? It feels like we are accelerating towards our extinction. A level of irrationalism that would make a novel or movie too unrealistic to hold my interest…

The persistence of belief smashes rationalism into a million pieces..

Robert writes: Fuck all this tribal bullshit and I say we just let god’s people kill themselves. I don’t care about any of these ideologist assholes. The US will be lucky if it doesn’t disintegrate into similar tribal civil-war bullshit in the near future.

Although it is a confusing morass getting statistics i think USA has more of God’s peopl…[Read more]

China invading the USA would be an act of war dissimilar to Jewish survivors fleeing persecution to return to their ancient homeland. One sovereign nation is invading and overcoming another. I assume you are equating China and USA. USA voted in favor of partition if i recall. That is the extent of their involvement. The USA also deprived…[Read more]

I agree with Robert.

Davis, that takes a great deal of imagination, a Trump-like expansion of reality to metamorphose the actual history of Palestinians and Israelis into a workable analogy.

In reality a people who were persecuted for centuries, on a path to extermination by the Germans and aided by other Europeans with virtually no succor save a good citizen here…[Read more]

No worries Unseen.

Yes Unseen and in keeping with your request i did not answer Davis.

I am not downplaying the significance of Taiwan and China.

Unseen, i don’t know if there is. You and Davis and Enco are posting here about Israel. I know Pope said something about creating another area for Israel but i did not see it and apparently you did not either. But here is something about the topic.

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/09/1044772875/south-china-sea-territory-disputes-intensify-u-s-china-tensions

@Unseen, if i understand the implications of your question and the answer it suggests then superficially it is NY or Copenhagen and the Jews were mistaken in their perception.

But that is a superficial answer. First one must understand the issue of a homeland from the perspective of Jews having just escaped the holocaust. Primarily filled with…[Read more]

Oh hey Unseen, hope it won’t cause Taiwanese dyspepsia but Enco and Davis opened the door.

Israel is never going to be understood without context. The anti-Israeli contingent will point to its abuses. They conveniently omit the abuses of their country and the greater nations of the world. (Not always of course but often) It is also clear that…[Read more]

Yeah Unseen i was poised to respond until i noticed your words. Fine by me.

[PopeBeanie edit here: I’ve moved the off-topic posts to topic “Israel vs Middle East“.]

Israel has anti-racism and anti-discrimination laws. I am not aware of any Arabic countries having similar protections for Jews. Unfortunately they do not have separation of church and state. And the Hassidim are a pernicious influence on their politics. The religious nuts also are not required to serve in the military. Speaking of separation of…[Read more]