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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoEnco i think all of New England is reasonably stocked with atheists and for most part nobody anywhere in New England shoves their BS down your throat.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoMy perception of the dynamics of inculcating beliefs and free thought are diametrically opposite of yours, Enco.
I see the viruses of the mind as being preeminent and largely determinative. Most of us born into Palestinian families with connections to Hamas would be of a kind with the majority. And you can superimpose that hypothetical fetus…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoSorry you feel that way Davis.
I imagine i am included among the untermensch of Atheist Zone. I don’t think it is as you imagine it. I have seen how you ascribe thoughts to me that were never present.
In Robert’s quote i think it has to be taken in context. If we changed the context and portrayed lets say some poor isolated, alienated and in…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoWord. Lickers of salt. Blood. press your luck.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoPolitics will never Trump American esprit de corps.
I’ll be Biden my time thinking about whether that is true.My favorite sandwich spread is Hamas because it’s ground chick pees when they see us coming with swords brandished.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoIn college i was attacked by a marine. He did not fare well. They aint all all that.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoStrega, how cool would it be if Vermont were officially known as the Godless State. Abutting the granite state is the pristine godless and green state of Vermont.
Stroll through rural Tennessee and you will feel like an alien visiting a foreign planet. So many frighteningly backwards locales in USA..
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoYeah i don’t think our personal circles or enounters are a reliable way to ascertain or even probative.
In my own small circle it is lots of atheist. The Jewish side of my family is atheist. The European is lip service Christians. And then how do you even know with simple people who don’t seem to have a world view?
In certain parts of USA you…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoThat video is quite good. Most importantly he persuasively argues what is patently obvious to anyone who is not under the spell of the far left or otherwise propagandized-the anti Israel sentiment is an expression of anti Jewish racism and outstandingly hypocritical. There are exceptions of course.
My only issue in his ten points is his take on…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School January 21th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 9 months agoPalestine 39 percent atheists?
OKAaaaaaaay.
Imagine how heads will roll when the Islamists of the moment find out!
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 9 months ago
Pope,
The issue of free will is related to core questions of our existence.
What are we? Is our sense of self an illusion? Dualism seems to creep into every thought and utterance related to self. “Oh my body is really achy after that strenuous workout.” But where are you? Where am I? Just WHERE am I? What does self mean? If you’ve ever…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 9 months ago
More i think about more convinced that those persuaded by notion we have free will are either ignorant in that they’ve never truly pondered the issues or have succumbed to that same narcissism driving belief in gods or superstition.
I’d love to hear any definition of free will that makes sense.
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 9 months ago
First we have to define free will before we can answer Robert’s question.
But obviously whatever it is has gone along for the evolutionary ride. Changes in brains suggest changes in consciousness and consciousness is inextricably linked with free will. So if we posit free will in humans but not in cats we are just being religious assholes. And…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 9 months ago
Davis, you may infer from influence that we have choice but influence does not imply choice.
The language is perhaps the confusion. Our language reflects our perception and experience. OH GOD, blurted out in a moment of ecstasy or astonishment does not imply that the bedazzled is a believer in god.
Decisions are made but never freely. The…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 10 months ago
Sorry, there is no contradiction in at once denying free will and influencing others. The influencer and the one influenced are the result of countless causal steps. So yes the mechanistic nature of the universe means it impossible to have free will. Sapolsky shows how our biology determines our everything.g Then again any chink in mechanics…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 10 months ago
No contradiction in what Sudden Sam is saying.
Only in a superficial way can it be seen as a contradiction.
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 10 months ago
Notice how the language suggests dualism?
We can’t really conceive of anything but our own agency. Where are we? WHERE, GODDAMNIT TO FUCKING HELL!
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 10 months ago
I just got that Sapolsky book. I am determined to read it.
However the issue is framed at most we have some sort of attenuated agency. Once we realize that we are not hot shits or that our flaws are beyond our control it can at once be a realization that liberates us and feels like being in chains.
Regardless of how convinced we are that free…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 10 months ago
Under any realistic definition i have no idea how free will is possible.
Agency? aaaa yeah i have my own agency. It is known as Central Mental.
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By virtue of the Egyptian magician an incontrovertible logician.
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