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Noel wrote:
I really had no reference or idea about WOKE. So thanks.

You might be interested in these BBC Radio 4 programmes:

a 28-minute one-off documentary https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000gkwc

a 5-part series of 15-minute programmes tracing its history https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001jc1k

Both are fascinating.

Unseen wrote:
“Uniformed officers may take an initial report, after which specialist detectives may investigate.”

This text is from the Wiltshire Police page about reporting child abuse, by which I presume they mean sexual or physical abuse.  It’s not for reporting playground taunts.

However, since the story appears in three mainstream…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
So it depends on the context whether malicious bullshit is acceptable or not.

Not that strange ideas, that I might not agree with, are necessarily ill-intentioned.  It’s not malicious to believe that the Earth is flat.

Unseen wrote:
Schoolyard taunts 1/burglaries 0.

I haven’t heard anything about this story, and no reputable or mainstream UK media sources are carrying it.  I suspect it’s not true.

I don’t know about hate speech.  People need to be protected from bullying.  But as far as loopy ideas go, it is better for them to be aired and challenged rather th…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
Cisgendered (a woke term, BTW) white males who are not elderly do have advantages, to be sure, but not all of them are due to irrationality.

1) it may be a woke term, but that doesn’t make it illegitimate, in itself.  The core message of wokeness is a legitimate one in my opinion.

2) society is run by men and society fails to take…[Read more]

@unseen – I agree with what you say – it is all of those things.  But it also has a “legitimate” meaning or something it’s supposed to mean – to be “awake” to the fact that Western society is inherently oppressive to certain demographics – i.e., everyone who isn’t a cisgendered straight white male.  Now, is it also oppressive to cisgendered s…[Read more]

Woke just means progressive.  But it also means a kind of aggressive puritanism.

Noel wrote:
Who knew, STRONG FEMALE characters; WOKE. The learning never stops.

I don’t think that having strong female characters is woke.  But having a stereotype of white men as inherently stupid or evil is woke.

PopeBeanie wrote:
So currently, I’m just baffled by both sides’ stubbornness and predicaments. I have no idea if/how we’ll ever get past these true crises, at least not soon. Jeebus, I had no idea the right would be so afraid of melting into non-existence, like, umm, snowflakes.

It’s definitely a difficult problem.  There are researchers in the…[Read more]

It’s possible to do something woke with a movie, that doesn’t mean reducing people to stereotypes of identities that you have to make a point about.  Just telling someone’s story, from a certain demographic, so that their point of view is heard, is a woke or progressive thing to do in my opinion.

Unseen wrote:
I have a proposal for a woke TV series. It’s a reboot of The Lone Ranger. The Lone Ranger is a trans female who’s also a lesbian, which is perfect because her sidekick, Tonto (“slow” in Spanish, BTW) is a black female. They join together to fight for social justice.

That would kind of be the intersectional joke version.  On the othe…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
However the movement is history repeating itself in terms of human nature. It is my contention that any form of ideology is anathema to reason and the greater good.

I guess any zealous ideology can get its competitive purity spirals and its puritans and its thought police.  The thing is with wokeism is that it’s justified by…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
This is the kind of bullshit that ran people of into MAGA land.

I think it provides legitimate fuel for them to get pissed off about.  But I don’t think they’re rational people in the first place – they don’t necessarily want what rational people want.  They’re coming from a completely batshit angle.

I watch a lot of female-led movies or movies about all kinds of people, and they’re great, because they’re about real life.  But when it has to be Woke and they lay on the crass stereotypes with a trowel – it’s boring.

Noel wrote:
I’m having a hard time even with the definition to the word WOKE.

I think in the context of movies, it means “humourless puritans”.

RichRaelian wrote:
”Inherit the Wind!”

Sounds interesting:  “The controversial subject of evolution versus creation causes two polar opposites to engage in one explosive battle of beliefs. “

Even Star Trek was “woke” (progressive).  When the message is rammed down my throat using crass caricatures, I find it all a bit worthy and dull and I switch off.  I prefer human stories with some humour.

Autumn wrote:
At the end of the day, social media sites all fit an awkward space that borders on paradoxical unless we rethink what social media actually is.

Why do you think it’s paradoxical?  Because it sinks under the weight of numbers?  Reddit looks like it’s in the process of folding up as we speak.

Everything passes.