A Sober Reminder to Unbelievers Everywhere!

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Fellow Unbelievers:

A sobering reminder that The Clash of Civilization Versus Islamic Barbarism is still playing in the background:

Salman Rushdie: Author in surgery after being stabbed on stage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62524922

Be street-wise as serpents, but keep shrewdly speaking your mind! They can’t get us all!

[_Robert_Participant]

Hitchens would speak of him often. Found this wiki….

The Iranian government backed the fatwa against Rushdie until 1998, when the succeeding government of Iranian President Mohammad Khatami said it no longer supported the killing of Rushdie. However, the fatwa remains in place.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Imagine how unsettling it is to have insane ideologues an ever present threat? That is a tough way to live.

[UnseenParticipant]

jakelafort wrote:

Imagine how unsettling it is to have insane ideologues an ever present threat? That is a tough way to live.

You mean like the MAGA heads? We’re livin’ it!

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Fellow Unbelievers,

Here’s an update:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/live-updates-author-salman-rushdie-attacked-in-new-york/liveblog/93528252.cms

I hope Rushdie gets a bionic eye, a new liver. and carries on, as a testimony of the superiority of the Secular West over Dark Age Islamic thuggery.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Fellow Unbelievers,

Another update: Rushdie is off the respirator, talking, and joking:

Agent: Rushdie off ventilator and talking, day after attack
ttps://apnews.com/article/salman-rushdie-on-ventilator-after-new-york-stabbing-5ea54212d71b95569ed85df7b0fb5fea

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Fellow Unbelievers,

Sage words in the immediate wake of the attack on Salman Rushdie from the heads of Foundation for Individual Right and Expression:

Salman Rushdie’s Stabbing Shows the Danger of Conflating Words with ‘Violence’
Greg Lukianoff, Robert Shibley
https://www.thedailybeast.com/salman-rushdies-stabbing-shows-the-danger-of-conflating-words-with-violence

Violence isn’t the proper resonse to words, but it is a proper defense against violence.

I hope when Salman Rushdie recovers, his handlers will hold his events in Vermont, New Hampshire, or any other jurisdiction friendly to concealed carry. Jihadists in the first two States would meet a handgun behind every maple leaf and a rifle behind every bucket of syrup.🍁🥞🔫

[—Participant]

What a vapid article. Abuse and harm can stem from physical acts and acts of communication. If one wants to concern themselves with abuse and harm, might as well look at abuse and harm directly. Physical violence is almost never warranted for anything. Speech, and specifically criticism, are commonly useful. It’s difficult to imagine many scenarios where physical violence is an acceptable response to speech and criticism. This does not mean that speech and criticism are categorically innocuous, neither does it mean that speech and criticism are useful or effective responses as a rule.

[UnseenParticipant]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

I hope when Salman Rushdie recovers, his handlers will hold his events in Vermont, New Hampshire, or any other jurisdiction friendly to concealed carry.

You’re assuming Rushdie would have held his talk in a place that allowed guns.  take it that even where concealed carry is legal, that doesn’t apply to private places. Private places, like bookstores can forbid the carrying of weapons.

Rushdie is worth $15 million and had he wanted to be surrounded by bodyguards he would have been surrounded by his own bodyguards.

[DavisModerator]

Anyone who thinks that speech cannot be violent is terribly deluded. Tell that to children in school about to commit suicide from relentless verbal bullying, those who stay at home from the scars of public bigotry and domestic partners battered by verbal abuse.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 7 months ago by  Davis.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Fellow Unbelievers,

Lest anyone forget, the entire 33-year Salman Rushdie story is about the head of a Theocratic Totalitarian State Iran imposing censorship, not merely on it’s own citizens, but from beyond it’s own borders via assassination and terror to a foreign author, his publisher, his translators, his agents, and anyone connected to them worldwide.

To the extent anyone pulled The Satanic Verses off of bookstore shelves or library shelves or spoke of this book or Salman Rushdie in hushed tones because of this official act of thuggery by the Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran, that act of censorship succeeded.

Well it didn’t work from my end and it never will. So long as the Fatwa against Salman Rushdie holds, I will speak and act against it.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco right of speech is the shit when it is against power-in particular abuse of that power.

Just don’t make the mistake of concluding all speech is equally valuable. Our constitutional interpretation has not done that. Nor should you.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Davis,

A dream sequence about an 8th Century illiterate sheep-herder/warlord having a dialogue with Satan in a fiction book that no one is required to read is not the same as children compelled by law to attend an institution where they are subjected to bullying and abuse. No. Just no.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

You’re assuming Rushdie would have held his talk in a place that allowed guns. take it that even where concealed carry is legal, that doesn’t apply to private places. Private places, like bookstores can forbid the carrying of weapons.

There is the annual PorcFest. Lots of booksellers who are also pro-RKBA.

Rushdie is worth $15 million and had he wanted to be surrounded by bodyguards he would have been surrounded by his own bodyguards.

If he wants to continue to exercise his right to freedom of speech, he will certainly need them or at least an audience that would ventilate an attacker before the attacker reached the stage. Mossad Ayoob lives up that way in the “Live Free Or Die” State and would gladly offer his services. It always comes back to those “men on the wall.”

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