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  • #37912

    Unseen
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    The real evidence of all extraterrestrial visits is kept in a box with the bones of ‘Big Foot’. It is a small box. Well, it is infinitesimally small actually. We also keep all the actual evidence of religious prophecy in there as well.

    Along with the evidence for the Jersey Devil, the Chupacabra, and the Loch Ness Monster.

    #37917

    michael17
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    Michael17, Make a concrete prediction. Lets see if we can generate a wager. As a professional horse player i am always seeking overlays. I could really use a 1 to gazillion that is paying even money.

    The sure bet is that these are not aliens. Yes

    #37920

    michael17
    Participant

    Maybe let Michael stew in his juices for a while and talk realistically about UFOs?

    The real evidence of all extraterrestrial visits is kept in a box with the bones of ‘Big Foot’. It is a small box. Well, it is infinitesimally small actually. We also keep all the actual evidence of religious prophecy in there as well. As a RADAR engineer, I have watched birds, magnetic and weather events, meteorites, clouds of insects, drones and a myriad of other UFOs “move” across the sky like little green aliens. When I hear that RADAR is tracking UFOs…that is not much to talk about. A camera lens is a lens is a lens. Unless your eyes really glow bright red, you should know that.

    The military has video of these not only defying physics, but with no visible signs of propulsion and dividing like macroscopic quantum mechanics. Moreover they have appeared at  nuclear installations shutting down operations remotely.
    But I say yes, they are not aliens. Natural things cannot transverse interstellar space in any reasonable time

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    #37924

    jakelafort
    Participant

    Okay Michael17, i guess you can’t make a prediction other than the source of reports is angels.

    #37927

    michael17
    Participant

     

    Okay Michael17, i guess you can’t make a prediction other than the source of reports is angels.

    Well, I certainly don’t agree with this prediction:

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeEKrtwx/

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    #37929

    jakelafort
    Participant

    Yeah, finally found common ground with Michael!

    His either/or is a non sequitur.

    Are angels UFO’s? Holy shit, there goes Beelzebub defying God’s laws of physics.

    #37930

    Unseen
    Participant

    The military has video of these not only defying physics, but with no visible signs of propulsion and dividing like macroscopic quantum mechanics. Moreover they have appeared at  nuclear installations shutting down operations remotely. But I say yes, they are not aliens. Natural things cannot transverse interstellar space in any reasonable time

    The most likely explanation of things apparently defying physics isn’t Biblical magic, it’s natural phenomena that can produce illusions. Occam’s razor and all that.

    #37933

    Aliens remain as silent as any god. Both are still nothing. (from a recent Sunday school).

    #37934

    michael17
    Participant

    We just hope that the most advance military in world can accurately analyze telemetry from its on instruments since it controls the counter measures against thermo-nuclear war. And by the way,  a UFO sighting at a nuclear facility was concurrent with the  mysterious deactivation of missiles .

     

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    #37939

    jakelafort
    Participant

    Those articles are fine. On the other hand i don’t like the insinuation that the god proposition is on an equal footing with life on other planets. The latter is a near sure thing in my estimation.

    #37962

    PopeBeanie
    Moderator

    Anything that moves in contravention of the physical laws is almost certainly an atmospheric or optical effect.

    I’m especially attuned to the possibilities of deception wrt radar, and so on, since I was an Electronic Warfare Systems (EWS) technician when in the Air Force, back in the beginning days of stealth technology. The old tech back then was simple enough: Just send radar frequencies back to enemy radar equipment to make it appear as though (say) each B-52 was in multiple or random locations, and having a lot of electronics on board to be able to detect where and what types of all enemy radar is, whether on the ground or airborne.

    That was back in the 80’s. Now, stealth technology is light years ahead, so to speak, where invisibility and location deception are part of the package of anything that can fly into hostile territory.

    My point is, if alien tech is here, by definition more advanced than we are by thousands or even millions of years they’ll be able to “appear” on radar or even visually any way they want to appear or disappear. Supposed physics defying maneuvering may just be the more advance forms of deception, and I’m certain that they could remain completely invisible any time they wanted to.

    Meanwhile, a side-note I feel strongly about, if aliens were actually here. They’re likely not like fully grown aliens in a touring spaceship. If we were to send out explorers that could travel for light years, I’m sure we’d start out by shooting out bullet-sized packages of DNA and/or other AI & self-assembling robotic technology, just for the sake of saving money and physical resources. Perhaps we’d send them out in multiple directions, just as an exploratory strategy, and sit back and wait for their reports over the next thousands of years it would take to receive responses from them.

    It ain’t gonna be like Star Trek.

     

    #37964

    _Robert_
    Participant

    Anything that moves in contravention of the physical laws is almost certainly an atmospheric or optical effect.

    I’m especially attuned to the possibilities of deception wrt radar, and so on, since I was an Electronic Warfare Systems (EWS) technician when in the Air Force, back in the beginning days of stealth technology. The old tech back then was simple enough: Just send radar frequencies back to enemy radar equipment to make it appear as though (say) each B-52 was in multiple or random locations, and having a lot of electronics on board to be able to detect where and what types of all enemy radar is, whether on the ground or airborne. That was back in the 80’s. Now, stealth technology is light years ahead, so to speak, where invisibility and location deception are part of the package of anything that can fly into hostile territory. My point is, if alien tech is here, by definition more advanced than we are by thousands or even millions of years they’ll be able to “appear” on radar or even visually any way they want to appear or disappear. Supposed physics defying maneuvering may just be the more advance forms of deception, and I’m certain that they could remain completely invisible any time they wanted to. Meanwhile, a side-note I feel strongly about, if aliens were actually here. They’re likely not like fully grown aliens in a touring spaceship. If we were to send out explorers that could travel for light years, I’m sure we’d start out by shooting out bullet-sized packages of DNA and/or other AI & self-assembling robotic technology, just for the sake of saving money and physical resources. Perhaps we’d send them out in multiple directions, just as an exploratory strategy, and sit back and wait for their reports over the next thousands of years it would take to receive responses from them. It ain’t gonna be like Star Trek.

    Yep, not to mention that many of these videos are inverted and filtered infrared. If you ever wanted to make a 747 about 300 miles away look like a UFO – use highly processed infrared sensors, LOL.

    #37966

    michael17
    Participant

    Anything that moves in contravention of the physical laws is almost certainly an atmospheric or optical effect.

    I’m especially attuned to the possibilities of deception wrt radar, and so on, since I was an Electronic Warfare Systems (EWS) technician when in the Air Force, back in the beginning days of stealth technology. The old tech back then was simple enough: Just send radar frequencies back to enemy radar equipment to make it appear as though (say) each B-52 was in multiple or random locations, and having a lot of electronics on board to be able to detect where and what types of all enemy radar is, whether on the ground or airborne. That was back in the 80’s. Now, stealth technology is light years ahead, so to speak, where invisibility and location deception are part of the package of anything that can fly into hostile territory. My point is, if alien tech is here, by definition more advanced than we are by thousands or even millions of years they’ll be able to “appear” on radar or even visually any way they want to appear or disappear. Supposed physics defying maneuvering may just be the more advance forms of deception, and I’m certain that they could remain completely invisible any time they wanted to. Meanwhile, a side-note I feel strongly about, if aliens were actually here. They’re likely not like fully grown aliens in a touring spaceship. If we were to send out explorers that could travel for light years, I’m sure we’d start out by shooting out bullet-sized packages of DNA and/or other AI & self-assembling robotic technology, just for the sake of saving money and physical resources. Perhaps we’d send them out in multiple directions, just as an exploratory strategy, and sit back and wait for their reports over the next thousands of years it would take to receive responses from them. It ain’t gonna be like Star Trek.

    NASA in addition to the Pentagon is now enlisted in the investigation. In light of the investigative tools. now available to both agencies expect, greater reliability on the outcome of the analysis , not to mention the advance telemetry capturing the UFOs. The gross mistaking of identity, size and speed of 60 years ago and beyond is no longer  the mainstay of skepticism.  This is why acclaimed and reputable scientist have enlisted in the investigation

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