The plus side of the establishment of Israel…

[UnseenParticipant]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

If Hamas has fighters hiding in the apartment, of course it’s going to get bombed!

As if that’s the only way to handle it. Suppose you had some hiding in your house?

Well, it’s not like the Israeli hostages can use Instacart or GrubHub while being held captive! Their food and water are at the mercy of Hamas!

And Hamas seizing food and water aid is decidedly not conjecture!

I believe it’s true. I don’t believe they get all of it, unless you have proof.

Hamas seizes the food for itself, both to hold over the Palestinians as a tool of control, much like the Soviets did with their subjects, as well as a source of revenue on the black market to obtain more weapons! In other words, Hamas is seizing food without giving a shit about Palestinians!

Conjecture.

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[UnseenParticipant]

The genocide has many fronts. One is confiscating doctors who could be saving lives of injured civilians.

Gaza’s Stolen Healers

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

As if that’s the only way to handle it. Suppose you had some hiding in your house?

They’re getting shot if they are in my dwelling.

Here’s your proof of Hamas using food aid as a weapon against Palestinians:

Hamas Tried to Steal Gaza Aid Shipment From Jordan, US Says

Hamas Tried to Steal Gaza Aid Shipment From Jordan, US Says

And Hamas is also rocket attacking the sole land source of aid from Israel:

What are the latest obstacles to bringing humanitarian aid into Gaza, where hunger is worsening?
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-crossings-aid-gaza-f654871ba67c42e6345b6f709427b664

But the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees, the main provider of aid in Gaza, says no aid has actually entered Gaza from Kerem Shalom because of the security situation on the Palestinian side.

Foreign aid is typically trucked in from the Israeli side, unloaded in a central area and then picked up by Palestinian drivers who take it to distribution points.

Hamas has continued to launch rockets and mortar rounds at Israeli troops stationed near the crossing, including a strike on Wednesday after it reopened, and Israel regularly launches airstrikes in and around the nearby city of Rafah.

And, of course, Israel wouldn’t have to do strikes if Hamas didn’t launch rocket attacks.

And just why is Israel even allowing and yes, actually sending in aid if their intention is genocide?

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[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco,

Listen to the human comedy/tragedy play out for a few minutes in the link. UN and UNWRA is pure racist filth and that is probably not sufficiently strong as a condemnation. Such a joke having Jew haters cite Jew haters as affirmation of their STORIES. Oh wait it is the government that they are criticizing.

United Nations’ Bigotry Towards Israel: UNRWA Anti-semitism Poisons Palestinian Youth

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Jake,

That’s a Helluva long video to watch, but I read some portions of the transcript. They are indeed a bunch of hatemongers spewing their filth with our taxdollars. The U.N. Watch Channel on YouTube also has much documentation of the U.N. brainwashing of Palestinian kids and other endless U.N. moves against Israel.

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[UnseenParticipant]

I hear references to “antisemitism,” but what does this belief consist of? Do they believe the nonsense that the Jews run the world through the banking system or that they killed Jesus?

What does this supposed “antisemitism” consist of? What exactly is the motivating belief, supposedly?

Or is deploring the treatment of Palestinians by Israelis all one has to believe to be a terrible bigot?

[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco,

“That’s a Helluva long video to watch, but I read some portions of the transcript.”

That is why i said listen to a FEW MINUTES!

We give UNWRA hundreds of millions. And then we tell Israel to stop their war on Hamas. UNWRA and HAMAS kissing cousins and caused the war we want Israel to stop even before Hamas is eliminated. In that UN vid and transcript their is a citation to UNWRA rep officially indicating that the IDF is precise in its targeting of combatants.

But of course the endless stories to calumniate a state (and Jews) that is far more humane than others have been and would be under similar circumstances. UNWRA has participants and is one of the active agents in indoctrinating Palestinian kids in Gaza into mandatory Jew hatred. As i said before the fact that having hundreds of teachers from UNWRA was a back of newspaper story illustrates just how rotten the moral compass has become. I listened to one of its victims who was beaten senseless for not following instructions from an UNWRA teacher to throw stones at the Israelis.

[UnseenParticipant]

@ Jake

And it seems the only way to a “final solution” to the Hamas problem is to totally depopulate Gaza.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

And it seems the only way to a “final solution” to the Hamas problem is to totally depopulate Gaza.

This could end much quicker and to the benefit of both Palestinians and Israelis if there were a faction within Gaza and the West Bank who were sick of Hamas and Hezbollah and war with Israel.

Best yet if they were armed and willing to destroy Hamas and Hazbollah and pursue the ways of reason, freedom, and peace.

Perhaps Israel could even train and arm such a group. That would be a winning move!

[UnseenParticipant]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

This could end much quicker and to the benefit of both Palestinians and Israelis if there were a faction within Gaza and the West Bank who were sick of Hamas and Hezbollah and war with Israel.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

No miracle required. Gazans have had it in for Hamas for a while and the opposition has grown since the war started:

And The Free Press has a whole series of testimonials from Gazans who despise what Hamas has done to them and who want freedom within their land and peace with Israel:

All they need to get rid of Hamas is the opportunity and the means.

[UnseenParticipant]

@ Enco

Cool! Give them weapons and let them eliminate Hamas. By killing a number of noncombatants for every Hamas killed, Israel is simply creating the Hamas soldiers of tomorrow.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco,

That is pretty cool assuming it is authentic.

I suppose it is possible that the hatred by Gazans of Hamas may exceed that of Jews. At least a minority may think that way and that is a good thing. But there was a poll that showed diminished support of Hamas itself concurrently with support of Hamas’ surprise attack on Israel. Jew hatred is a constant in Gaza. It exists continuously irrespective of Israel’s actions. One thing that is needed ASAP is to end UNWRA and all of the textbooks and teachers who make Jew hatred the numero uno of education. And also programs created to introduce Israelis and Gazans at a tender age so that friendships & connections can be formed and impressions created through indoctrination about Jews dispelled. And then replace the lies coming from the left including the UN and Amnesty and the rest of em with actual history. Defininitely include the treatment of Palestinians in other Arab nations.

In educating Gazan kids have expectations of achievement for the Gazan kids. Instead of sending money to the new Gazan authority that would ultimately continue the self destructive Islamism/jihad the financial aid goes to pay for the education of those kids as aforementioned and punishes harshly parents and teachers and anyone in authority who espouses their aforementioned maniacal Jew hating incitement to kill rhetoric and who as is customary now beats the living bejesus out of kids. Also teach birth control and how it is irresponsible to have enormous families before being financially capable of supporting said family. Make fun a priority too. Little nudist colonies for the beaches. Amusement parks. Arcades. Outdoor movie theaters. Parks with duck ponds and feed the fish dispenaries at reasonable fish food fees. The whole nine.

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