The plus side of the establishment of Israel…
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May 21, 2024 at 11:01 pm #53750
Jake,
Back in my day, Looney Tunes and sitcoms co-existed side-by-side, first on rabbit ears with four or five channels, then on Nickelodeon as one of 57 channels on cable TV, then on-demand streamed from endless sources on the InnerToobz! They’ll all be playing all at once in my synapses when I can get them neural-networked! (It’ll probably be from a competitor with Neuralink™. I don’t want to hear Elon Muskie scold me about working-from-home.)
The bloom should long be off the rose with Ivy League Academia and Big Universities internationally. Recall, the designers and builders of Nazi death camps all had PhDs.
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May 22, 2024 at 1:03 am #53753Israel cops aid attackers derailing aid for trapped Palestinians.
May 22, 2024 at 1:04 am #53754Netanyahu’s government is hiding behind Hamas human shields to protect their pogrom against average Palestinian human beings from humanitarian criticism.
May 22, 2024 at 1:55 am #53755Netanyahu’s government is hiding behind Hamas human shields to protect their pogrom against average Palestinian human beings from humanitarian criticism.
and jesus saves !!!
May 22, 2024 at 9:30 am #53757Some more of the history around the Oslo Accord.
May 22, 2024 at 2:52 pm #53758Mustard on your face?
A black stain of Jew hatred that goes back millennia?
Neither
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/do-you-actually-hate-jews
May 23, 2024 at 1:44 am #53762Jake,
I have a few points of contention with Cynical Publius and a question:
One, he says:
The IDF’s enlisted forces are drawn from across the entire society, giving it the natural diversity that U.S. military leaders crave.
Military men in every rank who don’t go by the “Current Thing” of Wokeism, (and can manage to get away with it,) don’t look for “diversity” in recruits or fellow Servicepersons. They look for for ability, namely the ability to kill people and break things and hopefully kill the right people and break the right things. Immutable traits don’t enter into the equation, especially when lives are on the line.
R. Lee Erney’s portrayal of U.S.M.C. Drill Instructor Gunnery Sargent Hartman in Full Metal Jacket summed up Equal Opportunity worthlessness and Equal Opportunity at being killing machines not-so-nicely:
Nowadays, he’d amend it to say: “Peter-puffer?!? You’re more like Peter Pan than Hercules!!!”
Two, both the Nazis and the Soviets used tropes and themes from The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. The Soviets simply couched it in terms of “Anti-Zionism,” which is where we get that.
Three, Blimey! If I lived in a bleedin’ town with no decent dry cleaner, I’d just switch up the wardrobe to launderable suits and use OxyClean™!
Then sit back by the washing machine grumbling that “Magneto Was Right!”
Other than these nit-picks, Cynical Publius is basically correct.
My question: Does this fellow soldier he’s talking about have a last name that starts with “M” and vaguely rhymes with “Wisenheimer?”. If it’s who I’m thinking about, yep this soldier should know better.
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May 23, 2024 at 2:57 am #53764Jake,
My mistake on something. The person I’m thinking of is a Professor John Meersheimer. Who the soldier could be, I don’t know.
May 23, 2024 at 3:54 am #53765@ Jake
Someone who does not hate Jews is not an antisemite. I don’t hate Jews. The punch line of that syllogism is obvious.
If you are sure I’m an antisemite, say so.
Reminder, though, from this forum’s guidelines:
6. Defamation. You may say anything you like, no matter how offensive or unflattering, provided you demonstrate the charge is reasonably true. A more serious charge requires more and better support. If you announce that Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry are a bunch of racist pigs, you must have a proportional amount of evidence to back your claim.
This charge of antisemitism to anyone critical of Israel’s conduct has become a go to conversation stopper for those who cannot brook ANY criticism of Israel’s conduct, which has been concerning for several decades now.
BTW, for anyone thinking the “solution” is a two-state system, the tide is rising to accept Palestine as a state, even though the U.S. and probably the U.K. will prevent it from becoming a member of the U.N.
May 23, 2024 at 4:32 am #53766Enco,
The author of the article is i think not in favor of woke and probably dead set against it. Speculating here but my assumption as to his favoring a diverse military is a few things. Homogeneity in military probably causes too much unanimity in strategy and set in the ways policies. Having folks from diverse backgrounds means input from varied points of view. The military is in some ways a reflection of the greater culture and the nation itself. Having just males volunteer and coming from lower socioeconomic backgrounds means the military is less important and patriotism is more a matter of economics than actual devotion. Obviously in Israel having Jews, Druze, Bedouins and Palestinians is a good indication of a country that is more at one than maybe the USA is right now. I think military service is voluntary basis only for Arab Israelis and orthodox Jews. Here is hoping that orthodox no longer get a pass and i read that may happen soon. Oh and having women is also good for the morale of all. But i doubt his comment has anything to do with woke BS. And i still think the IDF is strictly a meritocracy.
As to the unnamed military strategist i have no idea. But the author is pretty clearly calling him out and nailing his ass. It would be interesting to see a reply from the unnamed soldier. Just did a quick search and your guess is a good one. There is a video titled Israel is choosing apartheid or ethnic cleansing.
No question the author is correct. Anyone who is SINGLULARLY focused on Israel in a region that is a cesspool of oppression and denial of human rights and parrots the fabricated charges that are historically the guilty pleasures of the victimizers of Jews and adopts as proof the propaganda, the often fake videos and media biased lies is either someone who is just ignorant/stupid and or a hater of Jews. It is literally a mini religion. And a more harmful path could not have been undertaken by a group that wants to do some good in the world. Islam makes inroads into the west. Islam is shielded from criticism. Muslims everywhere are its prisoners and the harm done to humanity is incalculable. Oppressors are given the green light especially in Muslim majority nations. Jihad is an ongoing crisis. And of course the legs forever of antisemitism is amplified.
May 23, 2024 at 3:54 pm #53767Jake,
Diversity can mean diversity of ideas, but ideas are not inate to immutable traits and when the term “diversity” is used in the context of a workplace, ideas are not what the proponents are concerned with, but who checks which demographic box on a questionnaire.
Also, even with diversity of ideas, the sole legitimate goal of everyone in a military has to be the defense of the nation they all share. Without that singular goal, the military is just a “meals-on-wheels” Jobs program…for as long as such a nation lasts.
May 23, 2024 at 4:26 pm #53768Enco as far as i can tell Israel is the last place for woke BS.
They have a draft. They are always at risk of being attacked. Having males, females, different religions, different socioeconomic status, different ethnicities is good and necessary for the nation. They need diversity because their numbers are relative to the greater Arab world (and Iranian) miniscule. But i also think a pluralistic military confers its own benefits.
https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/jews-dont-need-the-cult-of-woke-it-doesnt-care-for-us-cp4hbujy
May 23, 2024 at 4:27 pm #53769Unseen,
Your intentions may well be good and you may well have Jews as some of your best friends. In an online Forum, no one has a way to be sure, so I assume innocence.
But the intentions behind thoughts and deeds and the results of those thoughts and deeds are always very different things. It is possible that results of thoughts and needs can be Anti-Israel and Anti-Jewish without the slightest bit of ill-will towards Jews.
And since the particular animus against Israel from of the campus protesters is based on the belief that Israel is just a colonial outpost of The West, the protesters also evidence animus against The West. How the protesters want Israel to go is pretty much how they want The West to go as well.
No matter what your intentions or who you call friend, I ain’t going out like they want.
An attack on Israel’s existence is part of a long game of attack on everyone in The West and everyone in the world who ever benefited from the core ideas of The West. That cannot go without a response.
May 23, 2024 at 5:26 pm #53770@ Jake
So, I guess I’m not an antisemite after all. That term’s definition has been so broadened by many that almost any expression of doubt about or distaste for Israeli conduct is being called antisemitic nowadays.
May 23, 2024 at 5:44 pm #53771Fellow Unbelievers,
Visual confirmation that Religion and Morality are two very different things:
(Not graphically gory, but still disturbing)
https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1793299517279768965
If only those girls could have given their captors a swift kick in the coccyx and gonads while the captors brayed like cattle towards Mecca, followed by stomps to the captors’ heads and necks, and finished with .223 mm after-dinner mints.
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