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Sunday School 11th July 2021

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    Rule 1. Resist the temptation to try to talk them out of their beliefs.

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    Have a great week everyone!

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    _Robert_
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    Thanks once again, Reg,,

    Rule 1. Resist the temptation to try to talk them out of their beliefs.

    Makes a lot of sense.  Just like religion, they have canned responses to any counter argument. Not gonna press it; just providing perspective when the times are right and that seems to work.

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    Strega
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    Thanks, Reg!

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    Thanks Robert, I don’t think it possible to talk anyone out of their beliefs, be those beliefs religious or conspiracy theories. My tactic is to take the “Socratic Method” approach and to keep asking them to explain what they believe. Not just what they believe but how they came to hold them and why do they assert that they are correct in holding them. What is their standard for verifying the veracity of what they believe.

    Did you come to that understanding by yourself or are you accepting on faith what someone else has told you?, is often where I see the first crack. Then I ask them to write down their “Top 5” core beliefs about their faith (or whatever the topic is) and to give a single sentence explanation of why they believe each point.

    Just getting them to do that exercise is often the first step to get them to change their mind. This is because they have to critical ask themselves what they really believe and why they hold those beliefs to be true.

    I see with point 4 you wrote that you believe that you can converse with Jesus through prayer.

    Do you really believe that you are in communication with the Creator of the Universe? I think that is fascinating. I suppose you both use English?

    You think atheists will burn in Hell?

    On whose authority are you condemning 1 billion Chinese people?

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