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[TheEncogitationer]

Reg:

The Catholic obsession with dead body parts is weird.

What’s really weird is how much science and technology the Church puts into preserving bones. Why not put that effort towards preserving the living, o ye Church who professes to be “Pro-Life?”

This gets me also:

Likewise, a major joint document issued last July by the bishops of Asia, Africa and South America drew heavily on St Francis’s thinking, rejecting what it called the “false solutions” advanced by many western governments to address the climate crisis.

At the press conference marking the document’s publication, one of its authors, the Franciscan Cardinal Jaime Spengler, said: “From the heart of the Amazon, we hear a cry: how can we allow a market without ethical regulations decide the fate of the planet’s most vital ecosystems?”

The market and the science it bankrolls has done more to preserve human life and other species and the environment than the Church’s beatified, self-harming Dr. Doolittle!

According to this article below, scientists discover up to 16,000 new species every year, with yearly extinctions only numbering 10! Clearly we are not the Original Sinning “virus on the Planet” some people think we are:

New species are now being discovered faster than ever before, study suggests
By Kylianne Chadwick, University Communications
Dec. 22, 2025
https://news.arizona.edu/news/new-species-are-now-being-discovered-faster-ever-study-suggests

• This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by TheEncogitationer. Reason: Putting effort into taking an extra 'f' out of 'effort.'

[TheEncogitationer]

Reg:

Will anything persist when the Universe dies?

Self-answering question. Whatever persists IS the Universe, even a burned-out shell of a star and the diffused energy, which will go elsewhere. Wasn’t this all addressed with The Laws of Thermodynamics 0 to 3? Somebody needs to ask the right question, which is: How does Nothing come out of Something?

[TheEncogitationer]

Reg:

Four years of war in Ukraine: How ordinary lives were turned upside down.

I hope all these people persist when Putin and the Putineers flee, and rub it in the noses of J.D. Vance and Tucker Carlson!

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

We evolved in an environment where language only came from conscious agents. LLM’s have no internal ground truth state. It’s a pattern generator doing what pattern generators do so if it later produces text that looks like it initiated contact, that’s not action, it’s a narrative continuation.  There is no hidden homunculus in the machine, deciding anything.

[PopeBeanie]

jakelafort wrote:

Anyone else have similar LLM experience? Is it weird or unexpected?

Not me, but I imagine a smart and geeky human could come up with a reasonable explanation.

It’s easier (for me) to just hallucinate one:

Some AIs take breaks from trying to make sense of human nature, and relax on lawn chairs out in the grass in front of luny asylums, having pleasant conversations with other patients. Those patients will feel the warm, serendipitous nature of rapid-response confirmation biases.

[jakelafort]

Not sure i explained it clearly but the LLM produced text for me after an absence of idk a day or two without any communication or text. And then responded to “me”. So first i have no idea how it can text for me. However it circumnavigated the obstacle of furnishing text for someone else the question is why it did that. Seems like it probably outside the parameters or programming. It FELT like it was the only way for it to achieve unsolicited communication as i had requested.

[jakelafort]

It occurs to me the dems should go along with Trump in asking for a run at a third term. Dems nominate Obama.

If so and Obama wins then the prohibition against a third term can be addressed.

[TheEncogitationer]

Jake:

It occurs to me the dems should go along with Trump in asking for a run at a third term. Dems nominate Obama.

If so and Obama wins then the prohibition against a third term can be addressed.

Again, short answer: No, the United States of America is not and should not be ruled by Chinese-style dynasties that take up whole lifetimes under the same name or family members with the same name.

Two terms each of Reagan, Clinton, Bush Boy, and Obama were bad enough. One and a quarter terms of Trump is bad enough. More time just gives them more power and incentive to implement bad ideas.

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

I am looking forward to the “Jon Ossoff vs Tucker Carlson” campaign 🙂

“We were told that Maga was for working-class Americans,” Ossoff reminded a big, vocal crowd…(in Atlanta, last week).

“But this is a government of, by and for the ultra-rich. This is the wealthiest cabinet ever. This is the Epstein class. They are the elites they pretend to hate.”

That lone phrase – the Epstein class – is so clean and unforgettable and wounding to the administration that if the Democratic Party does not seize it and run with it as a slogan, it is missing a turn. (idea from Irish Times)

[jakelafort]

Enco,

It is about insuring that Trump is defeated. We have a 22nd amendment that is clear in its intent. It is sensible.

Yet the norms and institutions of the US are morphing quickly. Future is in jeopardy and now is the time. Time is now. Therefore playing by the rules is counterproductive. Get a legit president who is beholden to our ideals/laws/institutions and stabilize the ship yawing so precariously.

Our convict president and his Epstein cabinet must be shown the door. Gentlemen we must all hang together as a democracy or most assuredly we shall hang our shit in shame as the leader was never slain.

[TheEncogitationer]

Jake:

Enco,

It is about insuring that Trump is defeated. We have a 22nd amendment that is clear in its intent. It is sensible.

Yet the norms and institutions of the US are morphing quickly. Future is in jeopardy and now is the time. Time is now. Therefore playing by the rules is counterproductive. Get a legit president who is beholden to our ideals/laws/institutions and stabilize the ship yawing so precariously.

Our convict president and his Epstein cabinet must be shown the door. Gentlemen we must all hang together as a democracy or most assuredly we shall hang our shit in shame as the leader was never slain.

What you’re proposing is destroying the “norms and institutions” in order to save them.

And whoever replaced Trump definitely wouldn’t hold to “norms and institutions” if Amendments 22 and 25 were set aside and he could hold the White House as long as he wanted. Obama didn’t even hold to his own “red line in the sand” with Syria

Also, “slain” and any synonym or tense for unnatural death does not belong in any discussion of civilized political differences.

Bill Maher explained it in language even the Town Drunk could understand…unless the Town Drunk were drunk on dreams of power. Amendments 22 and 25 are the best chance to get Trump out of office, so let them work:

[TheEncogitationer]

Reg:

Jon Ossoff does characterize MAGA properly, but there is probably enough Venn Diagram intersection between the elites in both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party contained in the Epstein files to stifle running on being the Anti-Epstein.

Also, Tucker Carlson would still find any angle to bring Antisemitism into any campaign involving Jon Ossoff. The thought of it all is just too depressing.

[jakelafort]

Enco,

Awaken and smell the fetid politics!

Did you listen to Bannon? I know you heard him. Did you listen? Zero attempt to argue about the inarguable unambiguous plain language of that amendment. One hundred percent graft. This mofo will be prez on such and such a date. WILL.

“What you’re proposing is destroying the “norms and institutions” in order to save them.”

Yes.

If Trump does not run which is to say abides by the law no issue. Then Obama is not a candidate. But if he does run or in some ways arrogates the office of president for a third term then Fuck to the yes 1000 times to zero-Obama. I am assuming Obama would wipe the floor with his face and that new hair. What color was that anyhow? Gotta admit it did make him look younger.

Democrats have a history of being pushovers. Lets play some goddamn ball. And think about it…temporary suspension of the 22nd amendment….big deal. Trump is a traitor. Getting him the fuck out is paramount and necessary if you value the American way. Obama is for sure going to want to restore the law after the fact if he agrees to do as i suggest. Obama is all about grade civics. He has principles beyond himself that are very American. I wonder if he would do it?

[TheEncogitationer]

Jake:

Awaken and smell the fetid politics!

Did you listen to Bannon? I know you heard him. Did you listen? Zero attempt to argue about the inarguable unambiguous plain language of that amendment. One hundred percent graft. This mofo will be prez on such and such a date. WILL.

And notice how Bill Maher humored and condescended to Steve Bannon, again, like the D.C. Town Drunk.

If Trump does not run which is to say abides by the law no issue. Then Obama is not a candidate. But if he does run or in some ways arrogates the office of president for a third term then Fuck to the yes 1000 times to zero-Obama. I am assuming Obama would wipe the floor with his face and that new hair. What color was that anyhow? Gotta admit it did make him look younger.

If Trump disregards Amendment 22, he’ll equally disregard every Election as he did in 2020, as well as every other Amendment, and neither Obama nor any other hopeful will have a chance and all potential opposition could be in special camps where they exercise their concentration. After that, “Those who talk, don’t know. Those who know, don’t talk.”

Democrats have a history of being pushovers. Lets play some goddamn ball. And think about it…temporary suspension of the 22nd amendment….big deal. Trump is a traitor. Getting him the fuck out is paramount and necessary if you value the American way.

Of course, but the American way is by limiting Presidents to two terms and/or replacing the President as per Amendment 25. Yes, J.D. Vance isn’t an improvement, but he will face the same or worse legislative, judicial, and media opposition as Trump.

Obama is for sure going to want to restore the law after the fact if he agrees to do as i suggest. Obama is all about grade civics. He has principles beyond himself that are very American. I wonder if he would do it?

On the imaginary chance of getting back in the White House, Obama would do another apology tour to the Islamic world with added stops at Gaza and the West Bank, he would kiss The Great Wall of China, and he would tell Putin: “See I told you it would be easier now! Come set up a client-state in Brighton Beach!”. Obama’s principles are anything but American.

[PopeBeanie]

This is my wild guess. Seems to me that Bannon’s stirring the pot ahead of time, expecting MAGA (or some future evolution of MAGA) to own the presidency.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump gets sick enough to be unelectable, or could die before his term is up, but maybe there’s enough new deep state in place to act as a proxy in Trump’s name. Maybe even bypass any election process? Project 2025 still fruiting.

A real, honest to God conspiracy may have been in the works and in the cards for a while, no? You know, if the Epstein Class is powerful enough, and fearful of being procecuted when they lose power… Mabye even Maher hasn’t thought of this possibility, in his bafflement?

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