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Sunday School November 16th 2025
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November 20, 2025 at 1:03 am #59269
Some new science on gene editing…..
Summary from AI;
Most rare diseases aren’t “rare” in aggregate — 400 million people worldwide have one.
But each specific mutation is rare, so big pharma won’t touch them because the economics are hopeless.Liu’s new approach (PERT) is a mutation-agnostic gene-editing engine for diseases caused by premature stop codons — nonsense mutations. These account for roughly 30% of genetic disorders.
Instead of repairing the mutation, they rewrite a tRNA so the ribosome ignores the rogue stop sign and finishes the protein.
That’s why Urnov called it “inventing a cat instead of building a better mousetrap.”
It’s a fundamentally different layer of intervention.
November 20, 2025 at 1:16 am #59270Reg and Fellow Unbelievers,
“Groupthink in science isn’t a problem; it’s a myth.”
Science isn’t groupthink, but scientists can and do engage in groupthink and delusion like other humans.
Witness Francis Collins, who, though he headed the Human Genome Project, somehow still embraces the 3000-year-old groupthink called Creationism, not to mention has delusions of being a good folk singer.
Francis Collins and Robert F. Kennedy must have a contest going to see who can give science the worst name. It clearly gave Muppet Matt Walsh pause to be nonplussed.
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November 20, 2025 at 1:27 am #59272Jake,
You don’t have to believe that humans are a special Divine Creation to see that the apes didn’t write a book or make a documentary on Jane Goodall instead of vice-versa.
Only a small difference in DNA, but what a difference a DNA makes.
November 20, 2025 at 2:51 am #59273Enco,
What is the difference between a humman and a chimp?
One wants to free Palestine and the other wants to free a banana. One is monkey see, monkey do. The other is Monkey hear, monkey believe. One sticks his tool in an ant mound and comes up with ants. The other sticks his tool some other place and comes up with crabs.
Yeah there is captain obvious shit between chimps and humans. And that coupled with i am special cuz i am god’s creation ethos made the scientific establishment unscientific.
November 20, 2025 at 2:54 am #59274I am glad humans learn. Too bad it was not on the level of a chimp. Eu continues to fund PA says this article in spite of refusing to alter the curriculum. Yea shit is gonna change in Gaza/West Bank real quick with the most vile indoctrination imaginable. Read it. It aint long.
November 20, 2025 at 2:57 am #59275Link Stink.
This should be the article i intended.
November 20, 2025 at 5:30 am #59277Oh and i should adduce cuz what the deuce that Goodall herself was a theist.
November 20, 2025 at 5:42 am #59278Simon,
You’ve found a creationist meme. How cool.
November 20, 2025 at 5:45 am #59279I asked AI “in the shadow of man synopsis of book in terms of great apes relation to man?
“In the Shadow of Man chronicles Jane Goodall’s early research and demonstrates the close relationship between humans and chimpanzees by revealing their complex social lives, emotional depth, and intelligence, which challenged the prevailing view of humans as unique due to their tool use. Goodall shows that chimpanzees have intricate social hierarchies and demonstrate behaviors previously thought to be exclusively human, such as tool making, toppling the “shadow of man” that separated humans from other great apes. The book also serves as a plea for the respectful treatment of chimpanzees, which are threatened by human activity.”
Incomplete but on the right track.
November 20, 2025 at 7:58 am #59280Only a small difference in DNA, but what a difference a DNA makes.
Apparently, it’s all because of our “harsh and risky foraging niche”. The great apes live in forests where food is easy to come by. Humans were forced to share and cooperate as soon as their forests died back and they were forced onto the savannah. Great apes don’t share or cooperate, although they are very social.
November 20, 2025 at 8:00 am #59281@jakelafort – yes, Jane Goodall totally opened up the field of primatology, changing a great ape from a “what” to a “who”.
November 20, 2025 at 8:56 pm #59282Chimptastic.
Yes, studies have shown that chimpanzees can beat adult humans in specific cognitive tests, particularly those measuring working memory and rapid visual assessment. This finding challenges the assumption that humans are superior in all cognitive functions.
Key Study Details
The most famous research, led by Professor Tetsuro Matsuzawa at Kyoto University, involved a short-term memory test where subjects had to remember the location of numbers on a touchscreen:
The Task: Participants were shown the numbers 1 through 9 spread randomly on a computer screen. When the number one was touched, the other numbers were immediately replaced by white squares. The goal was to touch the squares in the correct ascending numerical order based on their original location.
The Results: Young, trained chimpanzees, particularly a chimp named Ayumu, consistently outperformed human adults (including university students) in speed and accuracy, especially when the numbers were displayed for a very short duration (as little as 210 milliseconds). Humans struggled to maintain the same level of accuracy at high speeds.
The Interpretation: The chimps’ success is attributed to an ability akin to photographic or eidetic memory, which allows them to quickly memorize a complex visual pattern at a glance.
The “Cognitive Trade-Off” Theory
Researchers propose a “cognitive trade-off” hypothesis to explain these results. This theory suggests that during human evolution, we may have lost some ancestral short-term or working memory skills to make room in the brain for other, more complex functions, such as advanced language abilities, symbolic representation, and hierarchical thinking. For chimps in the wild, the ability to rapidly remember the location of resources (like a fruit tree) or assess a threat is a critical survival skill.
Other Areas of Superiority
In addition to the memory tests, chimpanzees have also shown an edge in some basic strategizing and game theory tasks, sometimes learning games faster and performing at a level consistent with the theoretical optimum (Nash equilibrium).
While these findings highlight specific cognitive areas where chimps excel, they do not imply overall intellectual superiority. Instead, they demonstrate that intelligence manifests in different ways across species depending on evolutionary needs. You can try a version of the memory test yourself on the Human Benchmark Chimp Test website.November 20, 2025 at 10:53 pm #59283November 20, 2025 at 10:55 pm #59284November 20, 2025 at 11:06 pm #59285https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20702883/
Two students ultimately outperformed the chimp on the brief-display condition. The authors conclude there’s no evidence for a fundamentally superior spatial memory system in chimps; intensive training plus strategy can explain Ayumu-level performance.
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