Gregg R Thomas
@greggrthomas
Active 8 years, 7 months ago-
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
King Iyk wrote:
The 12-hour clock is not introduced as a mere human preference but as the actual temporal framework in which the crucifixion was recorded by the cultures that carried it out (Roman and Jewish). When Jewish and Roman timekeeping are synchronized at that historical event, the result is not a vague pattern but a specific geometric… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
King Iyk wrote:
You could disprove this entire demonstration by conceiving an alternative demonstration of GodWe’re not going to do this, because we’re atheists and don’t believe in God, and none of us believes it’s possible to prove (or disprove) the existence of God.
If we’re arguing against your argument for the proof of God’s existence,…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
You have somewhat improved your “proof” by changing it from a raw “+” to “mod 9” but your argument still fails because the mapping from theology to numbers is arbitrary.
God = 12 and Trinity = 18 are merely chosen assignments.
“Base-10 law” is not an “immutable law of reality”. Digital-root tricks depend on base-10 representation (becau…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
“Must logically precede creation” is an assertion, not a consequence. Nothing in what you have presented logically entails pre-creation Trinitarian existence. To do that you would need to offer explicit premises with valid inference rules and then a conclusion that cannot be otherwise. All you are doing is offering a post-hoc pattern extracted fro…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
You are absolutely right that internal logical consistency ≠ empirical validity and that is exactly why this proof is stronger than any purely deductive or modal argument. The proof is not a closed logical system built on theological premises. It is empirically anchored in three independently verifiable, real-world facts. These are not a…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
Happy Christmas King Iyk:
As I reflect on the true meaning of Christmas and look at the little baby Jesus in the crib, I ask myself a very seasonal question “Did the Trinity exist while Mary was pregnant with Jesus? Let’s play a Christmassy game. Logic.
If you believe in mainstream Trinitarian doctrine, you must answer that yes, the Trinity exi…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
@King Iyk: Did the Trinity exist before the Creation of the Universe?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
King Iyk wrote:
here, AI is not inventing; it is verifying a convergence of real-world data that no human forced. the proof is not just consistent, it is grounded. The data speak. The convergence stands. Q.E.D. still holds. If the premises are real, fixed, and independent, and they are, then a necessary structure arising from them is not merely… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
• historically attested timestamps (3rd, 6th, 9th hour)
• independently defined timekeeping systems (Jewish and Roman)
• mathematically necessary properties of digital roots (3-6-9)
• geometric constraints of a 12-hour clock (3-6-9-12)This proof does not operate on visual noise or perceptual ambiguity. It operates on two immater…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 5 months, 1 week agoStrega wrote:
it’s not just people dying, like snuffing out a candle. It’s about leprosy, polio, and a million savage unrepairable wounds. It’s about the misery of pain, and the proximity to animal violence that pervaded in your ‘sounds great’ description.I take your point, that living conditions and the lack of advanced medicine would have made…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 5 months, 1 week agoI wonder if Schrödinger was ever nervous on Christmas morning as he opened his boxes of presents? Did he call his cat “socks”??
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 5 months, 1 week agoAs always, you are very welcome Strega 🙂
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Strega replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 5 months, 1 week agoThank you Reg. I’m really touched. Your poem is amazing and I’m honoured by the dedication.
(And thanks for Sunday School!)
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 5 months, 1 week agoI smoked some good weed last night. I imagined an artist digging into the earth for inspiration with bare hands and scraping the hand of a philosopher digging from the opposite direction…. so I wrote a poem. I will dedicate it to Strega 🙂
Digging
You dig from your side
with charcoal hands,
following a feeling
you can’t quite name.I dig fro…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 5 months, 1 week agoHave a great week and Happy Solstice from close to where I live, this morning. More here.
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Strega replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 5 months, 1 week ago@simon it’s not just people dying, like snuffing out a candle. It’s about leprosy, polio, and a million savage unrepairable wounds. It’s about the misery of pain, and the proximity to animal violence that pervaded in your ‘sounds great’ description.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
It may well be that @kingiyk‘s “proof” is logically consistent, i.e., logically valid. When AI checks it, it validates it on the grounds of internal logical consistency.
But that’s not the same as being empirically valid – valid in the real world. To be valid in the real world, all the premises have to be real (I don’t know – I assume) and t…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
It is patently clear you are incapable of reasoned debate. I am only replying for the sake of others that might be reading this from the sidelines.
“AI attested to it” is not a meaningful claim. LLMs are not intelligent systems. Just ask one if it is. They echo coherence, not correctness. If AI affirmations counted as validation, then nume…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 1 week ago
You said in the parting gift of your last paragraph that “The Bible’s God is Triune, demonstrated not assumed”.
But demonstrated how? All you have done is to show that patterns can be extracted from a text and that symbolic triad can be (re)arranged, Nothing is demonstrated.
“When treated as data rather than prose”….once again, this is a catego…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 5 months, 2 weeks ago
There is so much wrong here that I am not sure where to start. I will pick some points out. The whole piece reminds me of what Dan Dennett called a ‘deepity’. Lots of big words too so I will try not to be too much of a sesquipedalian.
‘But conceptual analysis still carries a burden: a concept that does not exist in its source domain cannot gen…[Read more]
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