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Sorry Pope, i forgot to answer your question!

If the hate speech is contemporaneous with the crime then it is evidence of the crime. Black guy gets his throat cut by a robed KKK who screams, “die you mutha fucking porch monkey nigger1”

On the other hand if there is no contemporaneous or temporal connection between the speech and the act it is an…[Read more]

Pope there are a number of issues you raise.

1. Feelings or direct impact on an individual.
2. hate speech can be directed at an individual with intent to harm that individual.
3. hate speech can be broadcast or disseminated in various ways (radio, internet, pamphlets, assemblies with an orator, etc
but with intent to influence the…[Read more]

Glen,

The great irony is that inside every old person there is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

That is a great line. It feels like time is accelerating. What felt like a week as a kid takes up a month..

Enco,

I have a copy of the constitution in my office. Before i look at any files I get down on all fours on the prayer rug and pay homage and give oblations to almighty Jesus Constitution. It is a pretty cool document in the framework of the period. But lets not go cuckoo bananas over it. Judged through a modern lens it is sexist and racist. It…[Read more]

Encogitationer,

Which planet is this?

Tell the tens of millions of victims of hate speech that they only need bills of attainder and reconstruction amendments or similar chimerical diaphanous dreck. Wade through the rivers of blood to inform them of your great understanding. Civilizations and cultures have permitted hate speech and the results…[Read more]

Encogitationer, I am in a strange mood to be willing to respond to you. I have the distinct impression you will only dig your heals in and are not amenable to a change in thinking. But here goes..

In mentioning other groups who would not be protected from hate speech i was hoping you would see that the incursion on free speech is for the most…[Read more]

Thanks for the information, Glen.

Glen, Glenie..oh that is horrible! I’ve been Glengod, Glenner, Glenrod but fortunately never Glennie. I was not aware of the Gaelic Glen.

Unseen, your understanding of law is not half bad for a nonlawyer.

I have dim recollection of first yr law school class in torts. First class and prof writes torts on chalk board-says it comes from french word, tortus meaning twisting i think. But tort law is civil law and yes it is all about money damages. You are correct about the burden of…[Read more]

Unseen,

What’s in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. What is a glen? It is a shady nook in the woods. So that is something i love. The woods are lovely dark and deep and i hike in the woods before i sleep. But but but Glen just strikes me as one step above Melvin. Jake on the other hand is a tough guy name.…[Read more]

Glen, Glen is my name also but i don’t like it. Almost got a legal change of name. Are you okay with Glen?

I was making a joke. Reg picked up on the reference..it is a comedian who has a litany of you might be a redneck jokes. I was handicapping as video was playing so i probably missed some stuff. It did seem like prosaic analysis but i did not…[Read more]

Was particularly peeved ya got Brain Droppings..

Can’t get one goddamn reference by you…

No, not a good video!

If you keep playing redneck videos you might be a redneck.

I think you are correct Kristina.

I only listened to the first 3 or 4 minutes. However i recall Redneck saying that if Trump attempts to subvert the election he will do it in the courts, not the military. He is omitting the other obvious possibility so by implication he thinks it is only the military that can effectuate a coup.

The vid linked by Glen is interesting. The Ted speaker demonstrates just how biological our consciousness is. In fact he doubts whether AI can become conscious since it is not biological. The brain makes predictions and we see and feel based upon those predictions. Often our constructs are way the fuck off but feel just as real as our normal…[Read more]

Redneck is assumiing a coup is accomplished using military.

There are already Trumpers in Washington. Add anti-Trumpers. Violence ensues. Orange man encourages his forces to stand up after having stood down. More and more Trump to my Lou assemble in DC and around the White House. The numbers are in the hundreds of thousands. They are in a…[Read more]

Davis, you beat me to the punch in terms of Enco’s straw dogs. He is beating the hell out of each and every one.
The US supreme court had a clear and present danger standard at one point (meaning hate speech that might cause imminent harm could be proscribed) That changed to I forgot the critical language but it was not much of a difference from…[Read more]

I concur. It is the sine qua non. But wtf is it?

Is it unique to carbon based organisms? How much does consciousness differ in our closest relatives? Do plants have it? Does the universe have it? Is it the same with organisms on other planets? Is evolution a process that is repeated ad infinitum and with it consciousness emerges in each case?…[Read more]