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  • #44816

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    Enco, retaking what was once part of the territory of a sovereign nation and super power? I think so. And Kiev was the actual center of Russia before Lord Novgorod the Great and until the rise of Moscow. Putin has a fondness/nostalgia for the lore of Russian history so i am dubious about your assertion. Maybe it is or was all of Ukraine or maybe not. The days of conquest a la Genghis, Alexander, Hitler et. al are past. If there had been a united front by all concerned parties that war had to be avoided and instead getting to a win/win by having a reshuffling of where people lived based on their ethnicity and sentiments then everyone could have a clear conscience that war was unavoidable. I have said it already and i will say it again. Human lives are cheap. Dirt cheap. I see you and many others who are cavalier about war and the consequences.

    What we ought to be concerned with is how it is in the 21st century that we still have dictators. How can one person fuck the lives and jeopardize the lives of so many? It is maddening and it is sickening. How do we get rid of Putin without obliging his agression by proxy with aggression? When will humans ever try something new? War war kill kill torture torture… That is great Bob. Then we pretend to be shocked by atrocities, by wanton cruelty, by senseless violence and rape. You don’t want to surrender? I don’t know that you are fighting. I don’t know that you have the right to put the world at risk of nucs. I don’t know that you have the right to cause starvation in people who have nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia.

    #44812

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    Unseen, if those wars are not enough Chicago is a never ending war. More lobbyists. More killing. Guns, guns, guns!

    We have to protect our vital interests in all of those places including Ukraine which is what? Guns, killing, profit.

    By the way sports fans Gun Runner continues to be the super sire.

    #44805

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    I still think a diplomatic solution ceding a small portion of Ukraine would have obviated the war. It also could have engendered cooperation and in turn set a precedent for handling similar affairs. The two sides had a natural point of cooperation in effectuating a massive migration within Ukraine so that ethnic and national sentiments align.

    The horrific consequences have hardly been unforseeable. On the contrary quite predicable. The spectre of nucs is the latent omnipresent threat. The boogie man, the bad guy, villifying those evil Russian mofos. Are the Ukrainian citizens any better than the Russian? I can show you some history to suggest that the parents/grand parents were not. When will we stop the juvenile castigation of entire groups of people. Humans are pretty much the same wherever you go. I will say that those subject to authoritarian regimes and or religious regimes/cultures are perhaps more subject to being controlled and having those influences elicit viciousness.

    It is really lousy all of the victims who live far away and never even knew the name Ukraine-poor people in poor countries suffering while flag-waving hawks celebrate the Ukranian David v Goliath go fuck yourself invader sentiment. Is it a wise course that has been taken? Is this more of the march of folly towards human extinction. I think clearly it is the latter.

    #44772

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    The chuffing hour and the hurricane power.

    Robert, has the hurricane made much of an impact in your area?

    #44768

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    I concur in re Michael. No shots, no intimations, just respectful.

    There is a natural antipathy between fervent believers and atheists. Each side tends towards incredulity as to the stupidity of the former and the blindness of the latter.

    #44748

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    Robert, on one level i agree with Hitch. On another it is the power of indoctrination and a good brain that is simply overtaken by indoctrination or mental illness. I am of the opinion that if you met Michael and he did not betray his religious obsession you would come away with the impression he is a sharp cat.

    #44728

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    Michael, how is it you believe when you can’t or is it won’t give us the shining prophecy on a hill?

    If I imagine myself filled with the recondite knowledge/information that has evaded the masses and even the cognoscenti-and how inspired i would be to divulge my evidence. Yet you offer zilch. Is it because you know that the prophecy you consider most persuasive would be ridiculed by atheists?

    #44720

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    Michael, not much of an answer to Beanie’s thoughtful questions.

    How about one prophecy, your favority, that demonstrates conclusively or by a preponderance of the evidence the validity of the prophecy. Not some half-baked ambiguity filled with generous interpretation-something the objective person (yeah a fantasy) would decide for the plaintiff in a civil claim where the standard is preponderance of the evidence.

    And if you can’t persuade us considering your depth of research and immersion in this topic then it is reasonable to conclude that you are sailing without a sail boat.

    #44709

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    Swami give us prophecy.

    The march of folly makes me jolly.

    Jolly balls.
    Jolly rolls.
    Jolly unfolds.

    #44697

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    Robert i was not questioning the reality of zoonoses. You wrote…One possibility is that a Homo Sapiens born pathogen jumped species and became novel in Neanderthals and wiped them out. I took born to be borne and took issue with the notion that Neanderthal and Homo Sapien are different species. And i agree that a pathogen can make short work of local populations. I suppose it is possible that notwithstanding fossils all over Europe and Asia that the population was down to small numbers and a tribe or two who were in close proximity. Under those circumstances zooknowses with fire hoses put out the life of Neanderthal. And it is quite possible that no single cause is responsible. Climate change, disease, boredom, skirmishes, canabilism…

    #44691

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    I am taking a firm stance against the pathogen hypothesis.

    Same species. So no species jump. Neanderthal fossils have been found in many locations in Europe and Asia. It is hard to imagine the population was sufficient to enable contamination from one group of Neanderthals to the next in a manner that resulted in extinction. There must have been great distances between groups. Perhaps they were nomadic but that is not the same as having extensive trade routes.

    Even with deadly pathogens some survive and that creates immunity. Even if a deadly pathogen visited Neanderthal and enclaves were wiped out or so few survivors that the end result was extinction of a group/tribe there just is no way for all of the groups to get the bug or virus.(I would think if it was a virus then we would have evidence of the virus.)

    Here is what i think happened. I have no idea!

    #44679

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    I’nat part of what deTocqueville bitched about in terms of democracy. Tyranny of the majority. Stupidity of the masses.

    So ya it is a legit concern Robert raises. And goddamn does murica have a great many morons.

    Perhaps the majority votes as to it’s intentions or policy objectives and an outside group is hired that effectuates the worker’s intentions/objectives.

    #44662

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    Part of the monologue is stupid. Our youth and ignorance against mores of the past is just a bad analogy. I agree completely with his take that humans suck. As i have said a gazillion times whoever holds the power is the fuckor and whoever is without is the fuckee. Blacks no better than Whites. etc.

    I do not accept cultural relativism. We should not simply give a pass cuz…so and so was just following orders, because they all had slaves, because others were participating in a mass rape. etc. It is not even true for instance that ALL contemporaries of bad actors were copascetic with slavery, genocide, rape…etc. Sure, there are a great many mindless followers. On the other hand there are a coterie of humans in which their birth dates will not cause them to be mindless and simply accept it cuz everyone else is doing it.

    #44651

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    Good answer Robert. At least it makes sense to me.

    I would also have experts in each area of political debate to grill the candidates publicly. No advance notice of the questions either. It is the best way to cut through the bullshit. Get to see how they think on their feet with hypotheticals, get a sense of the depth of their knowledge and character perhaps. Lobbying is just so obviously antithetical to our interests.

    The idea of identifying federal and local issues and which of those are salient and paramount makes a great deal of sense. How to get to the root cause makes sense. Then again philosopher kings or should i say any thinker who is not just another cookie cutter ideologue will never be the influencers who effectuate change.

    #44647

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    Robert, you wrote…if you do allow for true demand-driven capitalist competition and really tax and disperse according to need you could flatten the wealth inequality.

    I understand the concept of demand-driven capitalist competition. But i am not certain what you mean by disperse according to need. Would you elaborate?

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