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@Davis

If anything, humanists usually have more experience (via critical thinking and exposing themselves to knowledge about other cultures and philosophical ideas through the ages and around the world) with trying to see the world through the eyes of those with different world views.

That’s what you tell yourself. You can go ahead and believe t…[Read more]

@Davis

Yeah well what does spiritual mean? What do you mean by this statement? I cannot understand it. Please elaborate

I already gave one example when I was talking to Reg about the recommendation I received from a medical doctor (a physiatrist to be exact).

@Davis

Lo dijo Blas.

Did you actually read what I wrote?

RE: If you did then you’d realize how pointless and embarrassing it is to claim “we’ve already made up our minds” with a group of humanist rational empiricists. Zheesh

You “claim” that you’re SOOOO “open minded” and “willing to examine the evidence….” and willing to engage in honest conversation.

I’ve been around long enough to see through t…[Read more]

@Davis

Cada uno habla de la feria segun le va en ella.

…cherry pick and twist my words. You’re really good at that

We have an expression in Spanish (…lo dijo Blas…). It refers to any situation where someone cries “foul” but in reality that person is as guilty or flagrantly drippingly guilty of the very thing they’re complaining someone else does.

…cherry pick and twist my words. You’re rea…

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So to keep to buy original example about the soul, I think there are both physical and spiritual aspects of our being

Yeah well what does spiritual mean? What do you mean by this statement? I cannot understand it. Please elaborate

 atheists fully understand and the lens through which we describe what we think we know depends upon our world…

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Jody Lee wrote:
That’s a deep connection to something bigger. To me that’s spiritual.

To me, I think you’re referring to what I’d call “wonder.”

@Reg

“There are no gods in my world, in my head or in my book.”

~Reg the fronkey farmer~

https://atheistzone.com/groups/bookish-atheists/forum/topic/writers-tell-about-your-offerings-here/

How are you so sure?

That is your confirmation bias. That is how you see the world. That is your lens by which you see everything. So anything that you see…[Read more]

@Reg

Where have I made that statement in this post?

In this post you haven’t. But you’ve said that MANY times and you know it’s true…..

Where have I made that statement in this post?

@Reg

You have made the bold statement MANY times that you “know” There are no gods. My question to you is how can you be so sure?

Why would an actual medical doctor tell me to look to the spiritual to heal that of the physical?

You don’t understand what I’m trying to say and now you’re trying to cherry pick and twist my words. You’re really good at that.

I don’t think that atheists realize it and I don’t think that theists realize it. It’s kind of the same thing that we see happening to our political system. You have both sides coming at each other making accusations a…[Read more]

Ivy wrote:
Probably. I don’t think they would realize it. I think that theists and atheists Just describe the world through completely different lenses.

I was replying to your comment about the soul, not anyone’s worldview.

If you really think long and hard about it, it is the same thing….:-)

No, 2 completely different definitions.

@Reg

I suspect they will find an answer in their book.

Probably. I don’t think they would realize it. I think that theists and atheists Just describe the world through completely different lenses.

Ivy wrote:
If you really think long and hard about it, it is the same thing….

The next time theists stop me on the street in order to save my soul they will actually be concerned for the flow of electricity that neurotransmitters use to generate new synapses in my mind? I will be sure to ask them if my lack of belief in their god will affect t…

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So why would a medical doctor tell me what they told me?

Ivy wrote:
What I mean is that I disagree when you say that the soul does not exist.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/biocentrism/201112/does-the-soul-exist-evidence-says-yes%3famp

This article is written by an amateur. Like many quacks, he introduces Quantum Mechanics to support his terrible argument. Biocentrism…[Read more]

It is the ritual aspect of prayer andor chanting that can have these results. Same with meditation, long walks, good exercise…….

Yes, but I don’t think it’s actually the “ritual” Active prayer that can be so healing, but the community aspect of it. We are social creatures in we need people. It is the community of people together that can bring t…[Read more]