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  • #61962
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    Fellow Unbelievers:

    Here’s a brief snippet on the growing chaos in Europe:

    #61961
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    Fellow Unbelievers:

    Here is one of the legitimate complaints of French students about their classrooms, though they are negating their own case by burning cars and shops in the streets of Paris:

    Air Conditioning Is Not a Luxury, It Is a Necessity
    European regulators have it backward.
    Chelsea Follett — Aug 14, 2026

    Air Conditioning Is Not a Luxury, It Is a Necessity

    The Living Smiling Ghibli Chelsea Follett speaks truth here. How she keeps her sweet visage, I’ll never know. For me, speaking for human progress nowadays brings a more desperate face.

    The rioting has now spread to Italy, with rumblings of protests spreading to Germany, Spain, Belgium, Greece, and beyond.

    I hope the riots don’t reach The Vatican because The Church has got artwork and wealth in The Vatican Bank that they need to auction and remit to pay their many abuse victims.

    #61960
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    PopeBeanie:

    Although late to a game that people like the Late Sen, William Proxmire (D-Wisconsin), John Stossel, and The Cato Institute have been at for years, it is good to see The New York Times publish stories on this corruption and exorbitant waste! Let’s hope they continue whenever MAGA is dislodged from the body politic.

    #61957
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    Jake:

    What it seems like Einat Wilf is proposing is a De-Hamas-ification program while the Gaza-Israeli War is still in progress. Much like De-Nazification done in Germany after World War II.

    But the operative term for De-Nazification was after. The U.S. didn’t do De-Nazification until The Wickedly Great One took his Lead losenge in the bunker and the Nazi forces were defeated and surrendered.

    What we did while the war was still in progress was Psychological Warfare, to break down the enemy’s morale and encourage resistance from the Underground.

    Psy-War is what Israel needs to do as long as Hamas is still active and attacking Israel. It also wouldn’t require troops in Gaza, just messages sent via every medium used by residents of Gaza. Words, pictures, leaflets, books, radio and TV broadcasts, Internet videos and podcasts, all in Arabic and Parsi and all done from a distance. Even dropping leaflets could be done by drones without human pilots risking capture.

    Messages could say things like: “We get our ‘Pie-In-The-Sky’ without dying. How about you?”

    Then after Hamas is defeated, the De-Hamas-ification can begin.

    Einat would have to say Trump is what we all say.

    Huh? What does this mean? You speak in riddles, Sahib. 👳🏼‍♂️😉

    #61954
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    Jake:

    All that can be done to counter the influence of Hamas can be done without needlessly putting Israeli troops in the middle of two lines of fire. Israel could make a similar appeal to Gazans that they can make to Haredis: War is over, the fruit of Enlightenment is here…if you want it!

    Smart people can be deluded. If Eniat Wilf is aware without filters of Trump’s moves so far, she’d have to say the moves were an expensive failure.

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    #61950
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    Jake:

    I don’t know if I’m engaging in echolalia here (some of my attempts to post got rejected, probably from attempting to post two links,) but if so, it’s worth saying twice:

    As technologically advanced as Israel is, Israel should be the first one on the block, or even in the World, to have Mecha-Robotic Army Infantry and Armored Cavalry, Naval Personnel, Air Personnel, Marines, and Coast Guards!

    With Enlightenment Science and Values pre-programmed in for good measure!

    As a head-pat for the Haredis and Ultra-Orthodoxers, we can even call these Mecha-Robotic fighters: Golums!

    No more circumcised pissing contests over who serves Israel best! And while Golums won’t fully stop Antisemitism, at least Antisemites won’t have the Strawman of Israeli Happy Merchants sending U.S. boys from Farmville and the Ghettos and Los Barrios to die!

    How ’bout them Glorious Golums?!?

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    #61949
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    Jake:

    I like that commercial Enco. Way too low a target audience though.

    Well, the farmer can broaden the target audience if he does like Heather Lochlear with Fabergé Organics and repeats echolalia to two friends, who then repeat it to two friends…and so on…and so on… And so on…

    Until, of course, market penetration stops. No idea, product, service, or person (not even Heather Lochlear and Fabergé Organics) has 100% percent market penetration. This is why sales and marketing are considered work. This should also give us hope about Religious Fundamentalists as well.

    Re: The Haredis. Naturally I meant that we leave them alone if they are keeping to themselves peacefully and simply remind them that The Enlightenment is ready if and when they are. However, if they are using politics to make their ways the law for everyone else, then we stand against them.

    Israel can always use more Druze from Syria and elsewhere, but deporting Haredis would require a new law. Israel now has an Israel Citizen Revocation Act for those who “defame Israel or the IDF.” But I wouldn’t be comfortable with such a law in the U.S.A under The Orange Emperor. Really Israelis shouldn’t like it either.

    #61948
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    Jake:

    Eniat Wilf has the right idea that the nihilistic ideology of Palestinian is the source of the Gaza-Israeli War and Gaza’s woes. However, dividing Gaza into three zones would not adequately address this ideology.

    The Gazans who are sick of Hamas’ war and hatred against Jews are scattered among the Gazans who support Hamas, which is why dissenters are silent.

    The two groups of Gazans are not divided by regions of Gaza. So if the IDF were to permanently locate between the so-called Gaza of War and the so-called Gaza of Peace, what would keep the pro-Hamas Gazans from performing a pincer movement to crush the IDF, or at least try with many IDF casualties and deaths?

    A better approach would be to show the whole world and the Palestinianists the oppression of Hamas against the people of Gaza. Show every unveiled woman beaten by the Hamas morality police! Show every LGBTQ person thrown by Hamas off of buildings! Show every dissenter tortured by Hamas in their prisons!

    And Eniat Wilf, like so many other Zionists are deluded by Trump.

    Trump thinks everything can be a “deal” and has done nothing to depose the remaining Mullahs and IRGC in Iran. His shifting of sanctions and shifting of blockades have given back the Mullah’s ability to sell oil to fund war and terror. Trump has only buried the Mullah’s Weapon’s Gade Uranium, for the Mullahs to unEarth and weaponize another day.

    Trump has also re-empowered the Mullah’s ally Putin by lifting sanctions and accepting Putin’s offering of diesel, which probably came from The Mullahs and would only fuel the U.S.A for one day, but which distracts a desperate Trump from the Mullah’s and Putin’s war and terror.

    Meanwhile Trump’s use of Putin’s paltry Diesel help Trump distract ignorant MAGA members from high fuel and grocery prices and distract them from the Epstein files and Trump’s corrupt “enrichment.”

    Eniat Wilf knows the ideological problem. But really needs to study more and do better about how to address the problem and knowing who her allies are.

    #61944
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    Jake:

    Just finished the Eniat Wilf video.

    She has the right idea that the ideology of Palestinianism is a nihilist ideology and is the thing that needs destruction.

    She’s also right that Israel, Jews and the West is slow and ham-handed about fighting the war against Palestianism’s propaganda and Misinformation/Disinformation/Malinformation (MDM *Growl!* 🦁)

    Ben Shapiro has done an especially rotten job of countering this propaganda and MDM. Instead of doing so, he’s spent around $15 Million to make some Sword-And-Sorcery/Dungeons-And-Dragons/Lord of The Rings/Harry Potter cinematic bullshit that would make the Hosts and Bots of Mystery Science Theater 3000 wish they were sypillitically blind and mad. Plus, Ben Shapiro has ran The Daily Wire into the ground. Moreover, he’s always staffed his outfit wit a betrayer like Candace Owens, and Michael Knowles, who is her children’s Godfather, and Matt Walsh, who don’t care one way or another about Israel as long he gets his Lead-Based Grecian Formula for his Muppet Beard.

    The mechanics of implementing Eniat Wilf’s thoughts is a more complicated matter. More on this later.

    #61943
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    Jake:

    If the Orthodox don’t want to fight or be in the IDF it might be that they consider themselves above the fray. Entitled. Privileged. Deluded in thinking their role is important for Jews in general and Israel in particular. Also that they’ll be corrupted by a secular life. Gotta stay cult like ya know.

    And i think they stay with each other as separate units. I suppose that is for the better. On other hand if they had desegregation it might engender apostasy or a softening of religious zeal.

    I agree that things would be different and better for all if Orthodoxers and Fundamentalists of every religion would at least accept Secularism and Modernity.

    And that things would be even better if Orthodoxers and Fundamentalists went full-bore in favor of Enlightenment ideas of Atheism, Reason, Science, and a Pro-Freedom Polity.

    But if someone’s not born into a family that embraces these ideas, it takes time and effort for them to come around, if they ever do.

    A compulsory “de-programming” would be met with backlash and retrenchment, not to mention it’s anti-Enlightenment.

    A better approach would be to leave Orthodoxers and Fundamentalists alone as long as they are peaceful, but also let them know that Enlightenment ideas are here, ready whenever they are, and the water is just fine!

    I suppose the experiment must be conducted to learn how various groups like Arab israelis and Orthodox Jews react to compulsory military service. i reject the notion that an archetype candidate for military service is the way to go. Military service changes a person or often does so particularly when they are in battle or near battle. That shit gets real, real quick.

    Again, conscription would bring backlash and retrenchment. A better approach might be to appeal to compassion. “Look, we don’t want what happened to the Nova Music Festival on 10/07/23 happening to your shtetls or shuls! Please help us help you!”

    “If you won’t fight, at least please provide whatever material or logistic support you can! Or please provide strategic spots or surveillance to stop the enemy! Think about it, won’t you?”

    #61942
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    Jake:

    You pseudobulbarred me. There goes my uncontrollable echolalia.

    Well, why didn’t you call it that in the first place? Echo it to all of us so we can all repeat it and learn. Hey, it’s worth saying twice!
    😁😁

    The technique even outlasted a national drug store chain and the practice of hard copy photography:

    #61941
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    Reg:

    Great auto-tuned meme song! I initially thought it was J.D. Vance who said this. Of course, J.D. said “If I have to create stories, that is what I’m going to do.” So it would be no surprise if he claimed authorship of the meme.

    Of course, if The Orange Emperor could “enrich” himself by claiming authorship, he would do so too. Perhaps by encribing the meme on a MAGA-branded, gold-painted, Flock-camera-equiped Pet Carrier/House.

    ‘Course, it turns out that the meme originated on Facebook groups and was spread by Far Right/Neo-Nazis. So Trump and Vance were basically both pandering to a very base adjacent base.

    Springfield Pet Eating Hoax
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_pet-eating_hoax

    But wait, according to the shaky knowledge base of Mystery Science Theater 3000’s riff on Laserblast, every State has a Springfield.

    Also, The Simpsons was based in a town called Springfield. And none of the CRINK nations have a Springfield. So tracing this meme may be harder than we think. Hmmm…

    Seriously, though, it was very nice of The Kiffness to donate all of his video monetization to the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA.)

    On another serious note, there is a very real underground practice of animal cruelty that goes by many forms and names–cock-fighting, scorpion-fighting, dog-fighting, dog-baiting, bear-baiting, hog-dogging–all done for gambling and spectators’ sick kicks.

    Unlike bogus conspiracy theories like Blood Libel, Ritual Satanic Abuse, and Qanon claims, underground animal cruelty is well documented in news reports, police records, and court proceedings all over the country.

    One bunch of dog-fighters was recently found and busted in my locality. I can’t bring myself to shed a tear for any of these barbarians.

    Though foreign gangs may do underground animal abuse, most is done by U.S. Citizens and has been home-grown throughout U.S. history.

    This is a real problem facing wild animals, stray animals, as well as “pets and their people”* not MAGA fables!

    Though I am a Sapient-ist and an Omnivore and don’t favor banning consenting adult gambling over peaceful wagers, I do think Sapient-ism does impose a nobilesse óblige to not torture and kill non-sapient animals for simple shits-and-giggles.

    People who are not so self-restrained have a serious problem. They may not be so self-restrained to act against fellow humans.

    *(The old Early-2000’s online store Pets.com had the cute slogan: “The Online Store for Pets and Their People!”™)

    #61937
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    Fellow Unbelievers:

    Both the horror and hilarity of monster/space alien movies stem from a common source: These movies show what the Natural Universe would be like if it didn’t follow Natural Laws of Biology, Physics, Chemistry, and Astronomy, if the Natural Universe wasn’t under control of the Four Forces but instead was ruled by Murphy’s Laws.

    Perhaps the most horribly hilarious monster/space alien movie riffed by Mystery Science Theater 3000 is Pod People. It’s hard to briefly sum up, but it is like bits of E.T., Mac and Me, The Partridge Family, The Shining, and Camp Crystal Lake in the the Friday the 13th franchise mixed with psychotropic drugs in a Early 1980s Vita-Mix™, then soft-served with sprinkles of David Lynch’s Twin Peaks.

    The show begins with Joel and the Bots performing acts in their Art Chautauqua, where Crow T. Robot spits out acronyms non-stop in a free-form reading, Tom Servo does a dramatic soliloquy possibly from West Side Story and An Officer and A Gentleman, and Joel hits an explosive guitar chord. The Mad Scientists follow up with a Public Domain Karaoke Machine rendition of Ave Maria.

    Later on in the first Host Segment, Joel and the Bots sing the “Idiot Control” song with the Mad Scientists doing the production work and Joel giving his OK hand symbol and his cultured. nuanced assessment of the work given to other future musical works throughout the series: “It Stinks!”👌🏼

    The next Host Segment has Joel and the Bots using strung-together keyboards and doing New Age Music from Some Guys in Space, parodying the old Public Radio show and inspired by the music of the movie, followed by a Movie Sign from Tom Servo done in the voice of William Shatner.

    The third Host Segment duplicates in The Satellite Of Love the chaos that the alien monster Trumpy brings to the young boy’s room. This is the trippy part of the movie which may frighten those partaking of the brown acid left over from Woodstock. 😱🤯👽

    As the finale, Joel and the Bots pack up their circus gear and sing a slow tear-jerker “Will There Still Be A Clown In The Sky For Me?”. And the Mad Scientists feedback Joel’s judgement back at him! 👌🏼👌🏼”It Stinks!”.

    Sorry, there’s no “Clown In The Sky” but there’s plenty of clownishness in the human imagination of fellow humans, of the Earth, and of the Natural Universe.🤡🤡🤡

    So, in preparation for some real Close Encounters of the Third Kind, join Trumpy the Alien, young Tommy, all the “Little Potatoes” in Tommy’s bestiary, The Idiot Controller Chorus, The Beverly Hillbillies, Mrs. Hathaway, Chief, and McCloud in watching the extraterrestrial, paranormal fun that is Pod People, won’t you?

    #61934
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    Jake:

    I wonder if cannibalism had a role in extinction of our relatives.

    As to its prevalence i think it is not common but beyond exigent circumstances like the Donner Party, Communist Revolution in China and i am sure many others it has been practiced ritualistically. New Guinea for sure. I think i read Commanches did. And some South American natives also. Also some archeological site there was evidence of it.

    Here’s the most extensive list of incidents anyone could ever need (or want):

    Incidents of Cannibalism–Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_cannibalism

    Yes, cannibalism included our species’ predecessors on down to a most recent incident a year ago among the Russians in the present Russo-Ukraine War. In war and peace, East and West, North and South, Every level of human development. Wave after wave of it through China’s history. Pardon the gallows humor, but it’s like cannibals get hungry an hour later.🧟🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️

    The fact that our world population is over 8 Billion and slated to go to 10-11 billion before slowing down is a good indicator that we have mostly moved away from this horror. I just hope Cannibalism doesn’t go with us to other worlds.

    It is like eating your cat or dog. How do you do that?

    Indeed. J.D. Vance was wrong on this along with much else. I’ve checked out groceries for tens and probably hundreds of Caribbean people and only one had a small bag of pet food for cats, which would be a logical choice for trapping cats. Clearly Carribeans have no interest in eating pets. They like pork ribs and chicken much better.

    There is a form of mania that involves uncontrollable laughter.

    There is the afformentioned candition of Kuru. There is also Pseudobulbar Affect, which could come from brain injury, ALS, MS, dementia, or depression. All but depression are purely neurological.

    I’m not Doctor, but seeing Tucker Carlson play on YouTube makes me think he may have one of these problems. Somebody needs to gently pull him aside and get him help before his rhetoric gets somebody pogromed.

    I think you meant Claudia.

    You’re right. I had a Trump moment when I was naming things and people what I wanted instead of their previously given names. She looks like either a Maria or a Claudia. If I had a Biden moment, I would have named her Jill.🤪

    I wonder if that lady author with the swanky restaurant in DC explains in her book the theological basis for cannibalism among the Muslim Brotherhood.

    I can only guess the motives of these psychos, but I would think they would see cannibalism as an ablution for the world, to make it clean and holy after Dar Al Islam destroys Dar Al Harb. Only thing is, cannibalism might clean them out right behind us.

    Nobody in Israel needs to be informed how the enemies are alway there and ready to slaughter Israelis. And there is no way many Haredi are gonna volunteer. The ones who have served have practiced sexism against the women in the IDF. Meanwhile the Jewish Israelis largely resent the shit out of these orthodox assholes who get a pass. Riots and protests and a divisive issue is not what they need.

    If Haredim and other Anti-Zionists know the existential threats they face and yet do nothing to oppose them, that makes them suicidal. And if they won’t share space and get along with an entire gender, that makes them misogynist, transphobic, and generally misanthropic.

    Again, you don’t want suicidal, misogynist, transphobic, misanthropic members who don’t want to be there in a military. Volunteer service is best because the willingly enlisted want to fight and they can be screened for the most helpful traits. Mere warm bodies won’t cut it, especially in modern warfare.

    Since Israel already has one micronation, Akhzivland, in it’s midst, maybe it needs to create another, put it on the coast, and encourage Haredis and other Anti-Zionist Jews to settle there and provide for their own defense, trade, education and welfare.

    Call it Meshuggahnah-stan. The ads could say: “We don’t wish you ill, but you’re in the way! Here’s your own sandbox! Yours to have and yours to care for!”

    Service in the IDF helps with unity and patriotism. Speculating it would give Israeli intelligence an edge.

    It’s exactly the reverse. Unity, Patriotism, and Intelligence have to be there first, then those who have it can be of best service to the IDF.

    Obviously the right is naturally xenophobic and is not gonna be receptive to their entreaty.

    You can’t assume that nowadays. One of the big-wigs in Alternatifs fur Deutcheland converted to Islam. Also, the second Nazi redoubt besides South America after World War II was the Middle East, where many Nazis converted to Islam or at least adopted Arab names. Finally. both Nazis and Islamists have no problem with murder-suicide which makes them both dangerous separately and even worse together.

    Wow! Lots to think and talk about! I glad we have this Forum for both. Meanwhile, there’s more everything, everywhere, all-at-once lunacy happening. I need to pause and get other things done.

    #61931
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    Jake:

    Cannibalism is ok as long as you eat the liver with fava beans and a good chianti.

    Hannibal Lecter and Bobby Brainworm either learned one from another or learned from the same tainted source. Liver has a lot of vitamins, but is also a filter for the body’s waste. It’s never good to eat liver more than once a month or so-whether beef, chicken, pork, or otherwise.

    Good thing a wide swathe of ideologues won’t judge cuz cultures are relative and the hell with the victims. They just shuffled the deck and some end in the relative out-house of cultures.

    Well, Creutzfelt-Jakob Disease (CJD) and the disease called Kuru don’t care about moral or cultural relativism.

    These diseases may vary in the time they take, but they still have 100% fatality. They are transmissible from prions derived via eating infected brains and via instruments in contact with infected brains. Among the long list of accompanying neurological symptoms of CJD, Kuru’s symptoms include literally dying laughing.

    Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease–Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutzfeldt%E2%80%93Jakob_disease

    Now you see why cannibalism never caught on as an evolutionary trait, combined with the fact that trying it as a universal practice would be unsustainable? Now do you see why always-smiling Ghiblis give me the creeps?

    Besides they make up for it and put Israel on a pedestal so that their fire and brimstone sinners in the hands of an angry god judgment can be propped up by a giant construct and then whack the shit out of the construct.

    A pogrom piñata in other words. ¡Ay Chihuahua! Maria Scheinbaum, heche caution y llama a su oficina!

    I don’t think Israelis would be so passive as those NYers. Speaking of passive and fighting i hope Wilf’s party is influential and ALL Israelis have to serve in IDF. It is not right that religious fucktard Jews and Arabs get a pass.

    You speak truth about Israelis vis-a-vis U.S. Jews. The latter were basically secured for multiple generations by two oceans and lack of imagination by their enemies. Most here have never even smelled powder.

    I would Wilf and she has her insights, but you want people who want to fight. Conscripting young skulls full of mush or Orthodoxers who fall for Palestinianism and Anti-Zionism would be morale destroying and even militarily dangerous.

    A better strategy would be an ad campaign to let young adults and those not in the IDF know that the River and the Sea are filled ass-high in sharks, allegators, and piranas and the land in between is covered in porcupines, vipers, and scorpions and if you want to keep your coordinates, the fight is each of yours and yours alone! If you want to keep above it all, dance or die! The rest of us can’t be everywhere for you!

    So yea we humans have come a long way from our forbears. Haaaahahah

    Maybe if we stirred up accusations of Apostacy among members of the hungry, bloodthirsty members of the Muslim Brotherhood, they’d do like the Gingham Dog and the Callico Cat of the poem and eat each other up. With Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, they’d never be the wiser. And with Kuru, laughter would peel through every land tainted by the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Then there would be much less worry of who’s not serving in the IDF and maybe airplane trips would trips would be more restful, plus many more pre-9/11 and pre-10/7 comforts would be back with us.

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