Unseen

Simon Paynton wrote:
Yes – what exactly is moral relativism?  Is it the moral philosophy that nothing is better than anything else?

Moral relativism isn’t a simple concept. On the one hand, it’s an epithet meant to describe ethical anarchy. In the historical sense, it’s a recognition that the values that conform to right and wrong vary ac…[Read more]

@ Robert @ Jake

How do you define moral relativism?

If morals are not relative, then they are absolute which means factual. How would you go about proving that morality, which varies vastly from time to time and place to place is factual and not simply local beliefs at a given place and time?

I can’t wait to hear the answer.

A not bad at all full concert fancam showing that they always deliver your money’s worth when performing live.

Anyway, it’s time to get back to the original topic which is how AI raises questions regarding how to define porn and whether it can even have some positive uses, for example in treating pedophilia.

_Robert_ wrote:
Has sexualizing children ever been a moral act? Has rape ever been a moral act? Has owning people as slaves ever been moral act? The answer to those questions is and has always been a factual no.

Morals vary from place to place and time to time. They are beliefs. “Sexualizing” as used today is a new concept that didn’t exist until…[Read more]

@ Robert

You talk about right and wrong like they are facts and not artifacts. You don’t seem to know the difference between facts and beliefs. Cultural values are not facts subject to verification and proof. If they evolve over time, like our beliefs about homosexuality, they are not and cannot be facts.

Simon Paynton wrote:

Unseen wrote:
You treat “normal” as if normality is a fact and not a judgment or standard.

“Normal” can mean, neutrally, “most of the time” or “usually”. In that sense, paedophiles are a small minority and therefore abnormal.

Yeah, like people who own parrots. Abnormal.

@ Robert
You treat “normal” as if normality is a fact and not a judgment or standard. That is what we disagree about. For you, the ancient Greek men who diddled around with boys were violating some sort Truth handed down by God or perhaps built into the fabric of the Cosmos, and not simply a strongly held value and belief of a certain culture at a…[Read more]

RichRaelian wrote:
I don’t agree.

With whom or what explicitly?

_Robert_ wrote:
Any efforts to paint child predators as the victims here is disturbed. I am not giving pedos and predators any excuses by calling them mentally ill. would even call it psychopathic behavior and reiterate that they must be removed from society.

How do your basic assumptions not apply equally to gays and lesbian engaging in legal…[Read more]

@ Robert @ Jake

The Israeli Defense Forces is admitting the truth even though Netanyahu and you guys won’t: Even killing every last civilian Palestinian to get rid of Hamas is an unachievable goal.

But let’s kill all the Palestinians in the  Gaza ghetto anyway, even if it’s just for the helluvit.

IDF spokesman says Hamas can’t be destroyed, dr…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Sorry, that’s not logical. If it’s not normal, it’s abnormal, aka an “illness”.

First of all, not normal and abnormal are different concepts. Some leopards have spots and some, very few, are black, but a black panther is rare, not ill. A leopard with rabies is sick.

Furthermore, the concept of normality is normative, defined.…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
If there are tons of deep fake kiddie porn pictures out there – how are we to know if there are real ones in there too?  Perhaps real ones would become more sought after as, I imagine, a high proportion of child abusers are sadistic by nature and would enjoy the thought of a child actually being harmed to bring them a few ph…

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Another wrinkle in this topic is fake nudes of real people, now a threat to high school teens, mostly girls.

‘I Felt Shameful and Fearful’: Teen Who Saw AI Fake Nudes of Herself Speaks Out

A lot of bands disappoint live because they can’t bring it on stage the way they did in the studio. The Warning is not one of those bands, even in this fancam video from a recent show in Prague, it’s clear they don’t phone it in.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Sure, no problem Unseen.

No sweat. It’s a good topic for another post. I’d likely join in. Just find a juicy article with wide appeal and start it up.

@ Reg

I’d really like us to stick with the original focus on the implications for porn. That’s the discussion I’m hoping to have. That article may talk ab0ut more important things, but it’s a bit off-topic here.

_Robert_ wrote:
Because they get off on it being “bad” or wrong. They get off guys abusing and using women. From the safety of mommy’s basement, of course. It’s like legalizing weed. Half the heads I know barely even smoke anymore since granny can run down to the dispensary and pick up some shit stronger than anything they had before. Where i…

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The Warning hits the Billboard Top 10 at #8 in their category, Mainstream Rock Airplay, with the song Sick, which isn’t nearly as good as Hell You Call A Dream or Automatic Sun.