Artificial Intelligence

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
OpenAI reveal they achieved AGI – OpenAI o3. Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) will have a degree of “self-awareness”, adaptability, and creative problem-solving in situations it hasn’t been explicitly trained for. It will have the ability to continually learn and adapt autonomously, mimicking human-like learnin…

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Unseen wrote:
We do not live in a world where the average person is a philosopher who acts rationally without prejudice based on information.

That’s true, it must be a visceral decision at the end of the day for pregnant mothers.  But in wider society, on both sides, people take philosophical positions.

OpenAI reveal they achieved AGI – OpenAI o3.

Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) will have a degree of “self-awareness”, adaptability, and creative problem-solving in situations it hasn’t been explicitly trained for. It will have the ability to continually learn and adapt autonomously, mimicking human-like learning processes.

It will have the…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
What is the highest good or goal on each side?

Simon, Simon, Simon. We do not live in a world where the average person is a philosopher who acts rationally without prejudice based on information. Most people act from their gut, taking their attitudes into account, and based only on the information they want to credit or even hear.

Pro-life people say that “life” is sacrosanct no matter what.

Most pro-lifers are liars as they very quickly become anti-lifers or pro-death when it comes to capital punishment. So what if a few innocent people are murdered by the State. Yet a fetus that is about 2 to 2.5 inches (5 to 6 cm) long from crown to rump (head to bottom) and weighs abo…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
However, the disagreements over abortion are not disagreements over facts.  They are conflicts over attitudes or matters of opinion or definition.

What is the highest good or goal on each side?

Pro-life people say that “life” is sacrosanct no matter what.  Pro-choice people take a longer-term approach and think about the lifetime o…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:

Unseen wrote:
It’s often “framed” by people who aren’t facing the question and the woman facing the choice has already set aside “greater good for the child” question.

We don’t know how the individual women see it. It must be pretty subjective. As men, we never will understand it directly.

It can be argued that it’s very imp…

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Unseen wrote:
It’s often “framed” by people who aren’t facing the question and the woman facing the choice has already set aside “greater good for the child” question.

We don’t know how the individual women see it.  It must be pretty subjective.  As men, we never will understand it directly.

It can be argued that it’s very important soc…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
I frame the question of abortion as a healthcare choice.

Well, yeah, but (as a pro-lifer might say) what about the health of the baby?

There is a deep divide over this issue and it’s not a disagreement over facts (which would make it solvable). Rather, it’s a disagreement in attitudes.

I frame the question of abortion as a healthcare choice.

Simon Paynton wrote:

Unseen wrote:
It gets more complicated when the acts are individual (like whether to get an abortion) rather than social.

But the abortion question is framed as the greater good for the child – on either side.

It’s often “framed” by people who aren’t facing the question and the woman facing the choice has already set aside “…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
It gets more complicated when the acts are individual (like whether to get an abortion) rather than social.

But the abortion question is framed as the greater good for the child – on either side.

The debates on the existence of free will have been poisoned by “the god question.” The science on this topic is inconclusive. Science does not presuppose the answer. Theists however must have it exist to satisfy religious claims. They need relieve their god of the suffering and evil in his world.

Simon Paynton wrote:

Unseen wrote:
“Evil” is defined in different ways in different times, places, and communities. In Sparta, for example, it wasn’t evil to murder deformed or weak babies.

But they were doing it for unselfish reasons: for the greater good. That’s not so different from our conception of good and evil.

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We have a pond on the property. In it, lives a really old, really big snapping turtle. I watched it grab a blue heron by the leg as I was lounging on the beach with a dram of whisky. The bird would get free and then get pulled under again. Over and over. Finally, just a few feathers floating in the water. All because of Eve. The lion does not lay…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
However, I don’t think a lay person should accept a philosopher’s word that he has a solution to a philosophical problem if it’s one that only other philosophers or people who can intelligently read philosophy can understand.

“I have solved the free will problem and if you read my 400 page treatise and have a solid backgro…

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Unseen wrote:
“Evil” is defined in different ways in different times, places, and communities. In Sparta, for example, it wasn’t evil to murder deformed or weak babies.

But they were doing it for unselfish reasons: for the greater good.  That’s not so different from our conception of good and evil.

_Robert_ wrote:
This is the logic of christian apologists.

I was wondering when we’d hit post #55555. I missed it by one!

Unseen wrote:
Now, a final word on introducing the quantum world into the discussion. There is no predeterminism because quantum level events can influence events in the world of everyday Newtonian/Einsteinian physics.

I agree, and I feel responsible for potentially confusing a free will discussion with a mostly separate discussion on potential,…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
@robert “Evil” is defined in different ways in different times, places, and communities. In Sparta, for example, it wasn’t evil to murder deformed or weak babies. Even today, is abortion evil? Depends who you ask, doesn’t it?

Evil in the context of a “loving, all powerful god” is all and any suffering that he could easily prevent…[Read more]