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[Simon PayntonParticipant]

jakelafort wrote:

Opposition to Trump by disseminating daily/weekly summaries without political spin or charged terms associated with either party.

You’re talking about the BBC.  I get multiple programmes of this nature every day.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

jakelafort wrote:

Opposition to Trump

By “opposition” I mean “telling the truth”, which is opposition to Trump by default.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Simon i would not want any of the established media to be the purveyor. Certainly not the BBC. I have read enough about their jew hating journalists and bs reporting. For that matter CNN and MSNBC et al. Garbage in. Garbage out. I see the headlines alone and laugh. So patently biased. Fox anyone? It is all garbage.

I just want to have a trusted reporter of FACTS. Just the facts mam. Concise. No political ingredients added. No editorializing. No spin. Naked facts. Good or bad.

USA hangs in the balance.

[StregaModerator]

Simon, the BBC news is a great disappointment to me. The subjects they choose to report on may be accurate within the UK, but their coverage of USA events is hugely biased as they now get their “news” from CNN and similar organisations and it’s incredibly biased and incorrect.

Whilst trying to find actual news on the television rather than from podcasts, I hate to say it but Sky News seems to be far better than Auntie Beeb in its accuracy

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

The Asserson Report (Sept 2024) based on analysis of 9 million words, alleges the BBC violated its own editorial guidelines over 1,500 times, showing a bias against Israel—inclining towards Palestinian perspectives, portraying Israel as aggressive, downplaying Hamas terrorism. Report is here.

I have noticed that many “mainstream media” outlets are tying to be more dramatic as they try to compete with social media and YouTube commentators.  A truly “just the facts” approach would avoid any value-laden phrases and just simply report who said what, when, and what the actual evidence is. In general the BBC does provide context and good expert commentary but recently they have started making judgment calls which can shape an emotional interpretation of the topic. I just need to “hear the news” and I will decide myself. I don’t want it sanitized or flavored in any particular direction.  I can handle the truth and I have enough sources to know when I am not hearing it.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Yes, I would agree with you Strega and I now have Sky News back on my watch list. Overall the BBC is still very good so when they are biased it is really noticeable.  I enjoy Question Time and I have no problem hearing diverse opinions in such a setting, especially as the host is normally very good at moderating the discussions. But the news itself should be just a boring list of facts. If they end it with a funny story about a dog playing the violin, all well and good.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Simon,

You’re talking about the BBC. I get multiple programmes of this nature every day.

Uh, Simon, it’s BBC, monopoly State-run media. It’s going to be biased to whoever is the party and ideology in power and to whatever cultural millieu those in power want to appeal to and embrace.

When media is private, multiple-sourced, and competitive, at least you can detect bias in the differences of the sources, sift the stories, and more likely find the truth from common denominators of the stories.

Yeah, it’s work, what any good thing requires. But the end result is worth it.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Strega,

Whilst trying to find actual news on the television rather than from podcasts, I hate to say it but Sky News seems to be far better than Auntie Beeb in its accuracy

“Auntie Beeb?” Is that what the Brits call the BBC?

“Auntie Beeb” sound like the name for a dottering old chatter-box who, at best, gets the details wrong and, at worst, if taken too seriously, would whip up a local lynching bee.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Check out The Capture on Netflix. The future of media!!

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

USA hangs in the balance.

Yes.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Reg,

I’m truly confused.

It wasn’t too long ago that the “norms, values, and institutions” were all systemically racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic, privileged, and just all-around no-good-nik. Now, Trump is back and all of a sudden “norms, values, and institutions” are the bee’s knees and all who condemned them are struggling to hoard them like toilet paper during the Pandemic.

I’m at the point where I wish everybody would shit or get off the pot, or get off the pot and shit, or get on the pot and shit, and do it all away from me!

• This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by  TheEncogitationer. Reason: Making sure I had the right proportion of shitting and pot sitting

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Yes, it turns out that four legs are good but two legs are better. At least now that the pigs have been found walking on two legs. I was confused too. But when I checked with the Ministry of Truth, I discovered that pigs have always walked in this manner. I was mistaken in my thinking that they ever walked on four. The Leader is good.

[StregaModerator]

Reg – nice one, with the pigs :🐷

Enco – yes the BBC has been called Auntie Beeb by Brits for longer than I can remember.

Edited to add that Auntie Beeb dates back to the 1940’s and consequently predates me altogether.

• This reply was modified 5 months, 2 weeks ago by  Strega.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

From the above linked article…..Trump is wreaking havoc, much of it irreparable, and he has three and a half more years — at a minimum — to continue his wrecking-ball presidency. The disunity of the opposition has enabled Trump to proceed without the public fully understanding the range and scope of his destruction. Every day Trump sows confusion and uncertainty as his overall strategy of drowning voters in a sea of chaos keeps a majority of Americans in the dark, unable to distinguish truth from fiction amid the cacophony of political and legal charges, counter-charges and lies.

[jakelafortParticipant]

“Trump is wreaking havoc, much of it irreparable, and he has three and a half more years — at a minimum — to continue his wrecking-ball presidency. The disunity of the opposition has enabled Trump to proceed without the public fully understanding the range and scope of his destruction. Every day Trump sows confusion and uncertainty as his overall strategy of drowning voters in a sea of chaos keeps a majority of Americans in the dark, unable to distinguish truth from fiction amid the cacophony of political and legal charges, counter-charges and lies.”

Thus my idea to have a reliable fact driven news source. No additional content. No political jargon or ideological leaning. We need a source that is factual. Potentially so much value derived that it might actually make a difference and become a paradigm for other nations and ideological issues.

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