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Sunday School July 13th 2025
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July 13, 2025 at 10:26 am #58069
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorIRS says churches can now endorse political candidates.
RFK Jr. barred registered Democrats from being vaccine advisors, lawsuit says.
Vaccinations rise when states button up religious loopholes.
Desperate to show Democrats are “promoting atheism,” Republicans divulged sensitive data.
World of Woo: Dietary supplements.
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Trump administration wants to close key weather labs nationwide.
A brief recap of the Scopes Trial. Today is one of Mark Twain’s rhyming times.
What’s it like to be a baby?
Does AI boost productivity? The evidence is murky.
Long Reads:
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Mighty mitochondria: Cell powerhouses harnessed for healing.
Re-framing the science vs. anti-science debate.
Sunday Book Club: Proof: The Art and Science of Certainty.
Some photographs taken last week.
While you are waiting for the kettle to boil……
Coffee Break Videos: The Theory of Evolution (5 mins). Piers Morgan let’s Sam Harris talk about Islam. Do apologists hate pigeons? Does the Trump administration hate penguins? How we came to know the size of the Universe?
July 13, 2025 at 10:27 am #58071
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorHave a great week everyone!
July 13, 2025 at 3:14 pm #58072
StregaModeratorThanks, Reg!!
July 13, 2025 at 3:44 pm #58073
jakelafortParticipantHickory dickory dock
Scopes trial is a lock. Aint no monkey related to me. I’m created special and my will is free. Man has progressed after 100 years. New secular religion allays our fears. If we can remove the zionist threat all of us humans set free on the net. Ukraine, Yemen, Syria too…Sudan, Somalia, Darfur, who? Myopia obstructs utopia. Kill these fucking Jews!
You want to discuss Christian nationalist threat? No worries Orange crush makes the MAGAs wet. Willy nilly like air through a balloon a very stable genius crazier than a quantum field in a bassoon.
July 13, 2025 at 3:45 pm #58074
TheEncogitationerParticipantReg,
There needs to be a third value measured on that graph, namely gullibility. If you measured for that, the line would be vertical to infinity.
One thing’s for sure: AI in it’s present form adds nothing to frequency of miracles from my stance. I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI what Doctors have recommended for healing a diabetic foot wound.
When it didn’t reply that diabetic foot wounds were the fault of the Jews, I figured that it would be safe to read the rest.
The answers it gave were no different than my own Doctor’s and in fact cited the very same sources I found doing my own Web search. No new discoveries and absolutely banal.
July 13, 2025 at 3:59 pm #58075
TheEncogitationerParticipantReg,
What’s it like to be a baby?
Well, at least this epistemological cosplay question is easily relatable and has massive sample sizes to provide answers. Two especially big groups of samples are MAGA and Democratic Socialists of America. 😁 And there will be much bigger sample groups to study now that:
IRS says churches can now endorse political candidates.
It’ll also be another good reason to stay away. This may be what plunges attendance rolls into the ground.😁. Study them while you can and follow them to the nearest book store or bar as they exit.
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July 13, 2025 at 4:43 pm #58077
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake,
Hickory dickory dock
Scopes trial is a lock. Aint no monkey related to me. I’m created special and my will is free. Man has progressed after 100 years. New secular religion allays our fears. If we can remove the zionist threat all of us humans set free on the net. Ukraine, Yemen, Syria too…Sudan, Somalia, Darfur, who? Myopia obstructs utopia. Kill these fucking Jews!
You want to discuss Christian nationalist threat? No worries Orange crush makes the MAGAs wet. Willy nilly like air through a balloon a very stable genius crazier than a quantum field in a bassoon.
Top form as always, Jake. But if some part of the mind were not free, doesn’t that make all your poetry and all your tomes on these subjects all for naught?
July 13, 2025 at 5:13 pm #58079
StregaModerator@Enco
“But if some part of the mind were not free, doesn’t that make all your poetry and all your tomes on these subjects all for naught?”
What does this mean?
July 13, 2025 at 5:49 pm #58081
TheEncogitationerParticipantStrega,
If people could never change their minds, then any attempts to persuade them with words such as Jake’s would be futile.
July 13, 2025 at 7:28 pm #58082
StregaModeratorThank you @Enco I am buried under a vile cold and my brain has left the chat.
July 14, 2025 at 1:13 am #58090
jakelafortParticipantStrega am wishing you a speedy recovery.
“Top form as always, Jake. But if some part of the mind were not free, doesn’t that make all your poetry and all your tomes on these subjects all for naught?”
Thanks Enco. By any fair definition of free will i am of opinion it is just not possible. On other hand i don’t pretend to understand consciousness. Nail in coffin of free will for me is Sapolsky in Determined. A really good read and lots of interesting ideas conveyed beyond the issues of free will.
To answer your question…a fully determined universe gives our lives no greater meaning than attends the particles, waves and phenomena of the cosmos all of which is presumably sans any form of consciousness. On other hand it is the one area in which our feeling free (most of the time) is a beneficial artifice. After all the value of our life really comes down to nothing more complicated than how we feel.
I grew up an atheist. The one semi-religious idea i held was free will. Not the free will the Christians conceived to excuse the big guy’s bad behavior or poor craftsmanship, rather the simple feeling of autonomy. If the consequences of its absence mean all for naught then that is one interpretation but it is not the exclusive takeaway. And for that matter many theists seem to rationalize belief in god and afterlife by asking what life means without a personal creator or savior or afterlife. Consequences follow as they may and our wishes are only wishes.
You want to talk about hitting the lottery? Just contemplate how the universe had to unfold precisely as it has right up to conception, pregnancy and delivery for Enco et al. to experience life. And while our lives are a brief passage and mixture of grief, pain, despair, depression…Stop here Jake…our lives are also intensely satisfying, engaging, wondrous and interesting. Yes, interesting, we live in the most interesting time in human history. It appears to be on the precipice and about to collide with an immovable object and yet the sweetness of life can be enhanced as it has for so many soldiers in those pensive yet transcendental and existential moments. The advent of unimaginable (just a few centuries ago) insane technology, scientific discoveries and AI exploding onto scene and the curiosity about the universe and the outcome of so much conflict and so many existential issues. Consider how comparitively dull, yes dull, life had been century after quotidian century.
And the thing about the realization of no free will is the humility that emerges. A bit of a blow perhaps for the driven and successful individual whose accomplishments are no greater than the failings of the neerdowell. All of us can take some comfort in grasping the role of luck in our lives and the degree of control that we thought we had but never really did.
July 14, 2025 at 1:43 am #58091
TheEncogitationerParticipantStrega,
Thank you @Enco I am buried under a vile cold and my brain has left the chat
Well, take care of yourself and best of thoughts.
July 14, 2025 at 2:15 pm #58094
_Robert_Participant12.5% into his term and his dicklickers are done with him already? Felony convictions, grifting, tax evasion, rape, payoffs to hookers, labor theft, bankruptcies, pardoning criminals, taxation through tariffs, debt increasing, disobeying the constitution and rule of law, and an attempted coup were not enough. Lying about pedo island is the bad thing? They’ll get over it, being a cult and all.
July 14, 2025 at 4:25 pm #58096
UnseenParticipant12.5% into his term and his dicklickers are done with him already? Felony convictions, grifting, tax evasion, rape, payoffs to hookers, labor theft, bankruptcies, pardoning criminals, taxation through tariffs, debt increasing, disobeying the constitution and rule of law, and an attempted coup were not enough. Lying about pedo island is the bad thing? They’ll get over it, being a cult and all.
The MAGA true believers think that Trump is sequestering the list to protect powerful people. They haven’t yet drawn the conclusion, obvious to us, that he doesn’t want to release the list because he’s all over it.
He may already have had it destroyed, which case we have to hope that Elon or one of his DOGE minions has a copy.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Many people are placing hope on Ghislaine Maxwell’s supposed readiness to talk.I think she may be shaking Trump’s tree hoping for a pardon or commutation. For her, that would be the smart move, On the other hand, she’s been sitting in prison for several years and Trum</p>
July 14, 2025 at 4:51 pm #58097
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake,
More on this later. This is a lot to digest.
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