Sunday School

[Strega]

Reg, these are brilliant!  Thanks!!!

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

Title: Jordan Peterson and the Stopped Clock
Subtitle: “What do you mean it’s right twice a day?”

[INT. KITCHEN – EARLY MORNING. JORDAN PETERSON stands before a wall clock. It reads 11:37. It has read 11:37 for several days. He is visibly distressed, mug in hand, posture impeccable. There’s a camera crew filming a documentary behind him.]

PETERSON (pointing at the clock):
Now hold on. Hold on. People say, “Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.” But… but what do you mean by “stopped”? What do you mean by “right”? And more crucially — what do you mean by clock?

[He stares at it with intense suspicion, as if it might attack.]

PETERSON:
It hasn’t moved. It’s clearly not engaging in the hero’s journey. It’s stuck in its chaos phase — no logos, no telos, no bloody movement. That’s not a clock, that’s an ideological parasite disguised as a timepiece!

[He walks closer, circles it like a lion assessing a wounded gazelle.]

PETERSON:
You think you’re clever, don’t you? Just… sitting there. Pretending to represent time. You’re mimicking order while embodying entropy.

[A YOUNG CAMERAMAN clears his throat timidly.]

CAMERAMAN:
Should we… replace the battery?

PETERSON (whirls around):
Replace the battery?! Replace the battery?! That’s exactly what totalitarian ideologies do — quick fixes! External corrections for internal misalignment! The problem isn’t the battery. It’s that the clock refuses to take responsibility.

[He turns back to the clock.]

PETERSON:
You have one job. You tell time. You mark the passage of Being. But you opted out. And people still say you’re right twice a day? That’s relativism! That’s moral laziness!

[He grabs a marker and draws a 12-rule chart beside it.]

PETERSON:
Rule 1: Don’t lie to yourself. Rule 2: If you’re broken, don’t pretend to be accurate just because you accidentally resemble truth. Rule 3: Get your bloody gears in order!

[The DOCUMENTARY PRODUCER whispers to the cameraman.]

PRODUCER:
We were just hoping he’d talk about breakfast.

[PETERSON now holds the clock in his hands, looking deeply into its unmoving face.]

PETERSON:
Time doesn’t stop just because you did. The cosmos isn’t waiting. The dragons keep coming. Now… will you turn, or will you be turned?

[He replaces it gently on the wall and stares at it for several long seconds.]

PETERSON (softly):
Even a clock must confront its shadow.

TEXT ON SCREEN:
“Fix your room. Then fix your batteries.”

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

Title: W.L. Craig and the Cosmological Flatulence
Subtitle: “Yes, it began to exist… but that doesn’t mean it was mine.”

[INT. UNIVERSITY DEBATE STAGE – NIGHT]

The room is hushed. WILLIAM LANE CRAIG sits onstage beside a noted atheist philosopher. Midway through a point about the Kalam Cosmological Argument, a loud, unmistakable FART echoes across the auditorium.

There is a stunned pause.

Craig adjusts his blazer with academic dignity.*

CRAIG (clearing throat):
Now, let us reason carefully. That… flatulent event… clearly began to exist. Anything that begins to exist has a cause.

The audience titters. He presses on.

CRAIG:
But it would be fallacious — dare I say desperate — to assume I am that cause. This is precisely the Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc fallacy: “It happened after Craig spoke, therefore Craig caused it.” That is simply not logically valid.

The atheist philosopher raises an eyebrow. Craig continues.

CRAIG:
Yes, the sound entered temporal reality. It is contingent. It is not necessary. But to assert that I am the agent of the emission is to conflate contingency with personal culpability.

Someone in the crowd coughs “bullshit.” Craig points sternly.

CRAIG:
Let us return to first principles. If the sound came from nothing, then you have violated the principle ex nihilo, nihil fit. But if it came from something, then we must determine its efficient cause.

He pulls out a slide labeled “A Sound Argument for Divine Disassociation.”

CRAIG:
You may suggest: “Why not simply admit you passed gas?” But I ask you — why posit an unnecessary cause when other explanations suffice? Perhaps a creaky chair. Perhaps an audience member. Perhaps… even a malfunctioning speaker system.

The chair creaks. Everyone jumps.

CRAIG (smirking):
Ah. There we have it. The Kalam Argument applies to the universe. Not to my gastrointestinal region.

He leans back with theological smugness.

CRAIG:
It is true that this event began to exist. But I deny that it is self-caused. And I absolutely deny that it is William-caused.

TEXT ON SCREEN:
“The universe has a cause. The fart does not. Debate over.”

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

Thanks Strega, Unseen gave me the idea and this eternal waiting for a remote server to reboot allowed me the time……and there it is as I pen these words….back as a mirror image of itself from 90 minutes ago….its present state identical to its past…….and me with a little less gray matter and a lot more gray hair…….:-)

[jakelafort]

Well done Reg.

[PopeBeanie]

jakelafort wrote:

If you want to hear varied accounts first hand listen to the Yasmine Mohammed podcast. Here is the most recent episode.

4/3 of an hour… was well worth the listen. Funny at times, too. Tragedy and comedy being on opposite sides of the same coin.

I call myself “lefty”, but keep hearing this meme/theme about how “The Left” is so responsible for terrible things. (Of course both side’s extremes wear hate on their sleeve.) I want to ask someone about this who can respond objectively instead of emotionally.

I may have mentioned that one of my best friends is a rabbi. But he never talks about the left in the way that’s become all the “rage” now. He can start a respectful conversation with just about anyone, with both sides understanding each other better before parting ways.

Here is a picture from a drone over the ocean, facing toward San Francisco. He’s one of the hundreds of people on the beach, all looking like ants. (He’s helping to hold up the flag.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

(He’s helping to hold up the flage.)

[jakelafort]

Pope,

If you are exposed to enough anti-leftist literature/vids, learn enough history, and listen to Muslim/apostates give accounts of life in Islamic nations/cultures and the censorship from the leftists when they want to describe the lives they’ve lived and the dangers posed by Islam then no explanations will be necessary.

When i was a new lawyer made the mistake of being persuaded by a client’s anecdotes. Her version of the critical plot and issues was quite at odds with the reality. Similarly we find a seeming majority of people influenced by one ideology and not being exposed to the other. So if you do what Unseen kept doing going to lefty sources and are never exposed to anything external to the mythology/narratives you may well subscribe to the lies. Group think is human think.

I have only known one rabbi. As a high school kid i spent a few summers working at my uncle’s business for the summer. They had a friend who was a rabbi. Whenever my dad came to visit during those periods my uncle made sure the rabbi was not present. I was there the one and only time the rabbi was there during my dad’s surprise visit. Was not pretty how my dad crushed the rabbi. He calls em rabbits. My dad despises their influence in Jewish history so often urging pacifism in a world that wants Jews dead.

If you’d care to have me elaborate i shall. Otherwise i simply encourage you to explore the issues and think deeply and draw your own conclusions. BTW that episode of Yasmine Mohammed podcast is as sanguine as it gets. Many mind blowing episodes that depict a cult so vicious, so anti-life and anti-human that it strains credulity. Her own life story is wild. She was on Sam Harris podcast and has written a book about her life.

[PopeBeanie]

My conversations with the rabbi are pleasant. It probably helps that he’s an atheist. But the Baptist minister I worked with for a while had a couple issues with me, taking me to a Calvary headquarters once (in Florida), introducing me a superior of his, noting “He likes to think”, and the superior said “Ah, I see”. Once he called me Satan across the room, just to see how I’d react. I just said “Aww, come on, man!”, and the incident was over, although I was disappointed with him. Poor guy.

I let him live. 🙂

jakelafort wrote:

If you are exposed to enough anti-leftist literature/vids, learn enough history, and listen to Muslim/apostates give accounts of life in Islamic nations/cultures and the censorship from the leftists when they want to describe the lives they’ve lived and the dangers posed by Islam then no explanations will be necessary.

OK. Presume what you will, but IMO Lefty Me does not fully fit your (or those wonderful women’s) definition of The Left. I think we just disagree on definitions. I will call your Lefties the Too-Woke Lefties, or something.

[TheEncogitationer]

Reg,

All those are hilarious!

Of course, with Heidegger the Nazi, he could have just as easily, in a less verbose moment, came into Domino’s and sang the lyrics to Pink Floyd’s “In The Flesh.”. (Roger Waters could have also named that one “Art Imitating Life” the way he’s been going downhill, even before October 7th.)

And Sartre and De Beauvoir, being Marxist, would more likely have ordered the toy shop nationalized and the LEGO figures and Barbie sentenced to a Re-Edu-Ma-Ka-Shun Camp.

William Lane Craig, if he’s serious about his position, would have to make the George Carlin Cosmological Argument, that God is the unsired Tippy The Dog who is responsible for all farts.

Jordan Peterson on his All-Beef-and-Booze Diet could just drunkenly ignore the stopped clock and write his 12 Rules on toilet paper while trying to purge from either end on the pot.

I’d have to think of one for Nietzsche and Camus but it is a dark night for a sleepy consciousness where I’m at.

• This reply was modified 10 months ago by TheEncogitationer. Reason: Addendum

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

Title: Candide in America
Subtitle: “All is for the best… in the best of all possible tax brackets.”

[EXT. SUBURBAN STRIP MALL – FLORIDA – DAY]

CANDIDE, wide-eyed and ever-optimistic, now wears a red Make America Great Again hat slightly askew. He’s holding a Chick-fil-A milkshake in one hand and a dog-eared copy of The Art of the Deal in the other. Beside him, MARTIN (his old, cynical companion) smokes a vape and glares at a 24-hour news channel blaring from a diner window.

CANDIDE (cheerfully):
I must say, Martin, I have seen many worlds — Lisbon in flames, Paraguay under monks, Paris in ruin — but never have I seen such enthusiasm as in a Walmart parking lot during a book burning.

MARTIN:
That was To Kill a Mockingbird, Candide. Not a manifesto.

CANDIDE:
Nevertheless, it is proof that freedom of speech is alive and well! After all, President Trump says we must make America great again — and repetition, as Pangloss always said, is the twin of improvement!

MARTIN sighs and gestures to the nearby TV mounted in the diner window.

[ON TV: FOX NEWS – “FAITH IN THE STORM” SPECIAL REPORT]
The banner reads: “IS GOD USING HURRICANES TO RESTORE ORDER?”

DR. PANGLOSS, still in his 18th-century waistcoat but now wearing a crisp American flag lapel pin, sits smiling before a wind-blasted green screen of swirling clouds and disaster footage.

PANGLOSS (beaming):
You see, the hurricane — though it may seem destructive — is in fact a cleansing gesture from Divine Providence! It uproots weak buildings and weak beliefs alike. Were it not for hurricanes, how else would we test the fortitude of vinyl siding and conservative values?

HOST (nodding):
So you’re saying this is… a good thing?

PANGLOSS:
Indeed! All things happen for the best, and all the best things happen in Florida. Except perhaps literacy.

[BACK OUTSIDE – CANDIDE claps joyfully.]

CANDIDE:
There he is! Dr. Pangloss has made it in America! I always knew he would rise to prominence — if not in academia, then in infotainment!

MARTIN:
He’s being paid in exposure and coupons for tactical Bibles.

CANDIDE (slightly wistful):
Yes, I admit… things are not perfect. There are no more abortions, except in Texas gas station bathrooms with plausible deniability. The poor are poorer, the rich are Twitter accounts… and Dr. Pangloss now says hurricanes are blessings in disguise.

MARTIN:
So you’re disillusioned?

CANDIDE (staring at a fried pickle stand):
No, my friend. I am… re-illusioned. The illusion has changed, but I still hold it. For without illusion, what would Americans vote for?

MARTIN:
Health care?

CANDIDE (gasps):
You speak like an anarchist!

[CANDIDE places a “TRUMP 2028 – UTOPIA RELOADED” sticker on his water bottle.]

TEXT ON SCREEN:
“Let us cultivate our talking points.”

[Unseen]

Israel is dragging us into a potential WW3. Bibi has been warning the Iran is just 2 months away from a nuclear bomb for years and years. So, now is the time to call on the U.S. to put an end to it and open up golf course opportunities (of course).

Pair this with Trump’s mental decline is becoming hard to ignore:

And then there’s Tulsi Gabbard’s speaking out of turn warning to America that rich billionaires who will be in bomb shelters are dragging us toward nuclear apocalypse. Maybe she’s the one we should be listening to:

 

• This reply was modified 10 months ago by Unseen.

[jakelafort]

Pope, speaking ex cathedra sayeth “Lefty me does not fit your definition or those wonderful women’s definition of the left.”

Ok well if you’d indulge me then answer the following questions?

1. Did the UN GIVE the state of Israel to the Jews?

2. Is UNWRA an institution that contributes to the betterment of Palestinians?

3. Is antizionism antisemitism?

4. Do you agree in the way Islamism is off limits as a topic or an idea because of the risk it will be conflated with the people who are Muslims and is in essence bigotry or racism. If so should we also censor examination of other religions as ideas?

5. Do you agree that Muslim rape gangs and Muslim perpetrators of crime ought to have their identity concealed so that any association between Muslims and bad behavior caused by Islam is hidden?

6. Are middle eastern studies in universities legitimate academic areas? If those studies are a direct result of monies given by hostile foreign powers and are propaganda that advance the cause of those hostiles does that change your answer?

7. Are you sympathetic with globalizing the intifada? If not why not?

8. Is it ok for Harvard to have 97 percent of its profs lefties?

9. Is it ok to disallow contrary viewpoints at universities?

10. Is it ok to have Muslim men in Islamic nations rape little girls? Is it ok to deny self actualization of women and deny equal rights to females in those nations? Is it ok that every single Islamic nation imposes apartheid on its minorities? Is it ok if women are punished severely or executed for being unaccompanied in public by a male guardian or for failing to meet the sartorial requirements? Is it ok to have gays executed for being gay? Is it ok to hammer into the skulls of all Muslims that Jews are evil and Israel must end? If the aformentioned norms are ok in Islamic nations and Islamic cultures are they ok in non muslim nations and cultures? If they are ok in Islamic strongholds and it is a result of cultural relativism then how can we criticize any culture ever? And does that make the hypercritical focus and criticism on Israel hypocrisy? How can we have any standards of decency as relativists?

I could just keep going and going but it is gonna be way too many questions. So answer of not. Igualmente.

[PopeBeanie]

jakelafort wrote:

Ok well if you’d indulge me then answer the following questions?

Wow, no, I’m tapping out now. I think we must just have wildly different opinions of what “the left” is, and how monolithic it is. My opinion is not cut in stone, I’m learning from the ex-Muslim women you’ve turned us on to, and I want more.

Although I did want to ask you about UNWRA when you first mentioned it some time ago. Sure, looks evil to me. But are they really big and powerful enough to be a relevant force?

[PopeBeanie]

Unseen wrote:

Israel is dragging us into a potential WW3.

You mentioned not provoking Putin into nuclear attack once, is that what you’re thinking?

WRT Iran, I think Israel has been significantly reducing the threat, avoiding civilian casualties as best as they can. I believe Iran really has been producing weapon-grade nuclear fuel, although I would expect that at least one or more detectable nuclear tests would occur before any ramping up of production of nuclear bombs/missiles.

I watched your videos, even from the one creator I’ve blocked because I never learn much from him except for how to mock the bad guys. I may eventually block the other creator, too. I’m getting increasingly picky on youtube by blocking hypist click bait and creators who make their thumbnails look like they’re produced by different, more recognizable creators.

Tulsi’s plea is nothing new, while not proposing a solution. Wait, is that the video you intended to post? I don’t see anything about billionaires.

I didn’t know until watching one of Jake’s videos how the theocracy in Iran feels its their obligation to Allah to export massive destruction to non-believers in the region, and eventually to the West. Is there any solution, other than a regime change? (Perhaps by somehow peacefully empowering Iranian women?)

[Unseen]

@PopeBeanie

Gabbard refers to “political elite warmongers” and I think we know that she’s referring to rich and/or powerful people, many of the most influential being billionaires who, truth be told, could very well profit in the long run from a third world war.

Eventually, we may have to take the risk of giving up our own nuclear weapons if we are asking other powers to do so. Otherwise, it’s a pretty big ask.

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