Jason

[JasonParticipant]

$380 per month? I am guessing he is single, at least on paper. Obamacare wanted $600 per month for just my wife because we are married and my wife is in the age bracket that might shockingly end up pregnant.<i> Except for once in my life, I have never had a new car. There is nowhere I can cut my budget to free up that kind of money. What kind of life is working 3 full time jobs? </i>

As far as the new plan. I understand where you are coming from. That being said, I have an equal problem with the ocare plan. It hit my wife and I with an unacceptable penalty. It helped you and I guess maybe your son, but I don’t think so. If a candidate promises single payer, I will more than likely vote for them. The problem we have is that it must be good for everyone. Attempting to make me have to kill myself working at multiple full time jobs is not the way. I can’t vote for that. The other problem is that you have rumors spread by a media that hates Trump. It probably won’t be as bad as they say, just as ocare was not nearly as good as was promised. At least with the republicans we have not heard the phrase uttered “We have to vote it in so we can know what’s in it.”. It is being scrutinized by the left and the right and the bad stuff is and will be being fought. The republicans won’t be able to just pass anything they want like the crats did.

[JasonParticipant]

I also forgot. Your son changed his standard of living you say? Other than giving up a gym membership, what else changed? Is he married? Does he live with you or does he pay a mortgage or rent? I didn’t have a gym membership to give up. A gym membership might cost you a little over $1000 per year. If it was only a difference of $1000, I might have been able to find the money. The difference was over $7000 a year. I could not just pull that out of my ass. I am married and at the time had a mortgage to pay. What was I supposed to do, stop paying my mortgage?

[JasonParticipant]

This has nothing to do with race. My brother in law (white) knocked up a “white chick” about 3 years ago now. She has been dragging him through court for the life of their kid and plans to continue. She has stated that she wants to ride the welfare train, has no interest in working (ever), and basically wants the tax payers to pay her bills. We should if anything have a base wage that you get just for being. Want a life beyond that use it to start a business or get a job. I don’t give a crap about race. I can’t stand the lazy. I would like to work hard and do my time so at some point I can take it easy in retirement. Unfortunately the people that want to retire after either graduating high school or dropping out is not only growing, but are trying to make retirement for the workers impossible. The hand outs need to stop.

[JasonParticipant]

I use the term liberal as I do, because their end goal here based on their actions is to destroy the middle class. The pump up the welfare people that don’t/won’t work, yet they want to make the ones that work for too little pay, pay for everything. If I can’t afford healthcare, why should I have to contribute so someone that provides no effort has free healthcare. Free for all or free for none is what I am happy with. Not free for the non-working and too high a price for me to have. It can’t be both ways.

[JasonParticipant]

Is there a way I can hide my name? I thought I chose to make my name only visible to me, yet everyone sees it?

[JasonParticipant]

You say that Obama pulled something off like he did well. The problem with what the leftists are attempting to do is make almost everyone equal, while dropping some to being inferior. In New Jersey (extremely liberal), if you own an apartment building or motel (in some cases hotels) it is illegal for you to deny section 8 people to live there. The jersey shore has been ruined. It is not easy at all to book a motel room any longer, except for really far in advance of when you want to be there. When you arrive and dare to swim in the pool, you have section 8 people with multiple kids that will give you dirty looks as if you are invading their territory. It used to be that foodstamps only got you unprepared food. Now, you can have a sandwich made at quickcheck or order a fully cooked lobster from the local supermarket. If the libs have it their way, the foodstamps would be good everywhere credit cards are accepted (including all restaurants). Obama imposed a fine that only people that actually work for a living have to pay and only if the could not afford health insurance. Those on section 8 obviously would not have to pay it, since the working taxpayers already cover their insurance. Obama screwed a lot of people out of a lot of money. If you think I am wrong, please take into consideration that you probably have health insurance. If you put yourself in our position, I am sure you would see it differently.

[JasonParticipant]

I clicked reply on the wrong person. I was talking to Brodie. He was the one that assumed that I thought Trump was going to provide me with cheap affordable healthcare.

[JasonParticipant]

I take your silence to mean you don’t have $7200 per year to spare?

[JasonParticipant]

You don’t seem to understand. I don’t expect Trump or his administration to provide anything for me. Obama certainly didn’t. It would have been $600 a month ($7200 per year) to just get my wife insurance under Obamacare. We put in the time to call and answer the questions. If you have $7200 per year that you won’t miss, by all means send it to me. I expect Trump to not fine me if I can’t pay for health insurance. That is all I ask from our corrupted leftist government. Just because in my new career I will be able to pay for my wife and I to both have insurance, doesn’t mean I have to forgive Obama or forget. There are millions out there that have been hurt by Obama just as badly and have not been able to secure a better position. No healthcare of any kind is better than no healthcare and a heavy fine for not having healthcare.

[JasonParticipant]

I have not been able to find any reliable information other than Trump telling the IRS not to fine people for not having it, based on a new healthcare plan being in place. If I can hardly handle my own bills, I don’t need these people telling me that I need to pay a fine and get nothing in return. If they kept it as it was originally that by paying the fine you got some type of minimal healthcare, it would not be as bad.

[JasonParticipant]

I voted Trump. I was a 1 issue voter. As a life long New Jersey resident (a situation soon to be fixed), my wife and I were crushed by Obamacare. My current job (sales), which I am working my last 5 days at now does not pay well at all. Under Obamacare, my wife and had to pay a fine for not being able to afford healthcare. When added to the taxes we already had to pay, this was crippling. Basically you have a choice to make. Pay rent or a mortgage or pay for healthcare while living in your parents house, not both. I helped to elect Trump out of fear that Clinton would continue the madness. Those of you that think I am wrong, I am sure you and your significant other have healthcare at least mostly covered by your employers. It so happens that where I am about to go, employers pay a lot more and offer family benefits. I will no longer be caring as much about what our wasteful democrats do with healthcare, unless the decide that there needs to be a penalty for having it. Though, I will always remember what it was like to not have it and sympathize with people that get hammered for working yet not being able to get it.

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