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October 21, 2020 at 9:31 am #33722
Anna
ParticipantHi,
half an hour ago I got another friend request from her. She is stubborn.
October 20, 2020 at 6:29 pm #33681Anna
ParticipantYes, I copy/pasted that text from an email. Thank you.
July 18, 2019 at 12:59 pm #27149Anna
Participanttrue and very sad.
Also, a thought just occurred to me. If she became a radical muslim/orthodox/you name the religion or cult, instead of a radical christian I am sure that everybody would rush to save her. They would talk to her, try to free her from this dangerous religion/cult. They would recognize the symptoms of separation form family and friends, changes in mood, in behaviour etc. But since in our surrounding christians and not muslims/others are the majority then everybody is very soft about her change. People are so accustomed to this particular nonsense that they can’t see that obviously something wrong is happening to her. She may be perceived as increasingly annoying but there is nothing dangerous happening from their perspective.
July 18, 2019 at 11:17 am #27145Anna
Participant@Reg, I agree with you. Religions are so divisive. Instead of bringing people closer to each other, especially if somebody is helping you, they will only create imaginary boundaries and divide people in the fastest and meanest way possible: we and THEM. So sad really.
July 18, 2019 at 8:30 am #27143Anna
Participant@Davis I agree, she sounds very toxic but she was never like that. She was always the most kind and empathic person I have ever known. She stood for others even when we were kids. She was THE kid who always stood up against bullies to protect their victims. It tells a lot about a person if she is able to do that at the age of 8! And now she became a bully. This is also why I can’t understand this radical change.
Once again, thank you all for reading!
July 17, 2019 at 11:14 am #27124Anna
Participant@Davis @Glen Thank you so much for that.
She actually told me that she rejects the good part of the Bible as well as the Catholic Church (especially the present Pope for being too SOFT and not representing the true believers, “true” meaning radical). She just chooses to read the New Testament. Classic case of cherry picking. There were so many inconsistencies in her reasoning that it made no sense to point them out to her. I wouldn’t even know where to start. She also became very radical in terms of politics, education, human rights etc. At one point she told me that all immigrants are scum. I reminded her as gently as I could that SHE IS an immigrant, she is still living abroad. She’s been living there for the past 15 years! Did some of you ever encounter such level of cognitive dissonance?
But all that is no problem at all. Although I am an atheist I am perfectly capable of accepting that other people have religious beliefs (I can’t and won’t accept basic anti-human rights beliefs though). I admit that I am not perfect myself, no one is. I might have done or said something (even unintentionally) that made her feel bad. I asked her if that was the case. She said no. That at least made me feel somewhat better because I knew then that it was not my fault.
I also know from other sources that she insists on her close relatives that they read the New Testament. Her mother got really tired of her at this point, so I know now that I should not take it personally. Nevertheless, I feel hurt.
Thank you all for reading and helping!
July 16, 2019 at 12:22 pm #27099Anna
Participant@Simon, so what to do then? I would like to help her, I am almost sure that she is unwell but every intent of contact from my part was rejected. Should I just let it go? I don’t want to be negligent of her needs.
July 16, 2019 at 12:03 pm #27095Anna
Participant@Dang This is so low! How could he laugh at your weight? It must hurt a lot to realize that he probably wanted to hurt you. I am so sorry about that. It is absolutely unfair.
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July 16, 2019 at 11:55 am #27094Anna
Participant@Simon. Yes that is exactly what I thought.
She was always feeling isolated living abroad (she still does not speak the language very well although she spent 10+ years there) and additionally she lost two very close familiars in one single year. I was trying to be there for her, calling frequently, asking how she was feeling etc. I couldn’t be there physically for her on daily basis because I live in another country.
I imagine that after these two deaths and feeling isolated she developed a strong need to belong. I can understand that perfectly. There is nothing wrong with that. I would even encourage her to look for a church meetings or something similar knowing that it made her feel better. I am an atheist but I can understand those human needs. But instead she chose to stop talking to me.
I completely accept her way of living and her new beliefs (although I don’t agree with them) but cannot understand that she stopped accepting me and just threw away a lifetime of experiences we were sharing. I cannot even help her in case she is depressed because she won’t talk to me.
I suppose I know that this is the end of our friendship but it still hurts very much.
Don’t get me wrong I can perfectly assume friendships drifting away. I’ve been moving a lot and I made new friends every time and let friends go in many different places for many different reasons. I’ve lived in six different cities in four different countries, using five different languages for the past 15 years. But this one…this was one of the very few friendships that stayed strong throughout my life. And now it’s gone.
Thank you all for hearing me.
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July 15, 2019 at 9:26 pm #27075Anna
ParticipantThank you Strega,
I will use paragraph breaks next time, I promise! Also, english is not my mother tongue so sorry for all the errors.
What should I do then? I really miss her but it seems that she doesn’t want to deal with me. Should I just let a lifetime-long friendship to go away?
July 15, 2019 at 8:38 pm #27073Anna
ParticipantSomething like this happened to me recently. My all time best friend stopped talking to me after converting to hardcore catholicism (hardcore meaning she now believes Earth is 6k years old and evolution is a scam invented by scientists against the word of the Lord). We became best friends in primary school when we were both 7 years old. We are in our 40’s now. We were always present in our lives, even after moving to other countries (we were living abroad, each one in different country for the last 15 years). We were skyping frequently, we were speaking for more than an hour everytime, laughing, crying like best friends do. In some sense we were closer than ever because of our experience of living abroad. We were living in different countries so we both longed for our family and friends. I genuinely thought this would last forever, that we will get old and still be friends. She visited me with her husband and child who is almost the same age as mine, they were getting along great! We spent one week together, talking, cooking together, everything was great. I was really sad when she was gone. I started a new work and moved to another city.
Then I noticed that for some time she stopped initiating contact. It was always me asking her how she was doing, always me asking to Skype her etc. But once talking with her there was no problem at all. It lasted for maybe two years. Our conversations started to be less frequent and it was always me initiating them. There one day, she asked if she can Skype me. I was so happy. There were things I wanted to tell her, nice things, so I said of course. She called me and out of nowhere started to shout at me. She said that my life is garbage that she cannot understand how can I get up in the morning and not commit suicide. She said that she read the Bible and now she is a believer and she is concerned for my soul. She said that if I do not convert I will burn in hell. She started attacking my work (I am a scientist) saying that all scientists are liars that invent ways to speak against God, that universities are filled with scum. It was not only what she said but also the language she used, angry and vulgar at times. She was very aggressive.
We “spoke” for a long time, most of which she was attacking me by any means possible. She even went so low as to use some things from my past only she knew about (concerning my feelings towards somebody we both knew) to use it against me. It felt like the most profound betrayal. When we finished I felt really bad. I couldn’t understand a thing. There was no conflict between us, no argument, nothing. For a week I couldn’t think of anything else. Finally, I decided to write her an email because I felt it was absolutely unfair. I didn’t do anything wrong yet I felt terrible. It was a really long email in which I said what I felt and that I still wanted her in my life. That I respect her beliefs and I accept her how she is but she must accept me for who I am as well, especially that nothing changed from my side, I have been an atheist my whole life. She responded with a very short message turning everything around and saying that she is offended by my atheism that I am unable to see the Truth etc. However, she also said that she wanted me to be a part of her life. That was the last time we spoke “from the heart”. We Skyped once again (again it was me initiating the call), it was a very short and awkward conversation with no meaning at all. Then nothing.
Meanwhile, I moved to another country, much closer to her. It was a great change language-wise. I texted her about me moving. She responded: great. I send her a message for her birthday and asked how she was doing. She responded with “thumbs up” emoticon. She never asked how am I feeling in the new country, how am I settling in. How my child is feeling in the new environment, language etc. People who I barely know were asking me that, my best friend did not. I feel very bad about all this. I feel betrayed and deeply hurt. I really don’t think it will get any better. The most problematic thing for me is that I don’t know why it happened.
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