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The answer my friend is blowing in the wind…la la la…vitalism has an answer but it is a conclusion rather than an explanation. Is it that way, the same way, throughout the universe?

Robert, determinism kills it but so does randomness. If quantum influences us then there is randomness and a lack of control and without control one is not free to impose will.

Free will requires an escape valve from the chains of determinism and the randomness of quantum physics.

The only thing i can imagine acquiring free will is AI. When and if super intelligence emerges it may be possible for it to utilize different laws of physics than we are subject to and in so doing be free.

Reg, it was Onyango Makagutu who posted that video on the other atheist site, atheist universe. I listened three times. I had read about him a bit in Will and Ariel Durant’s history books.

Here is the mother of all atheist priests-brilliant guy when the era is contemplated.

Ivy wrote, it really takes a village to raise a child.

Conditioning assistance on joining the cult perpetuates the cult. It is a completely selfish and power grabbing move. It gives a village of children to the cult in which priests have a greater field of candidates to choose who to molest and rape. And it perpetuates all of horrors of…[Read more]

Did a little inventory of Catholic crimes and left off children. That is deep.

Simon says silly. Not silly Simon. Props to Reg.

Ivy, spiritual implications, implications on their souls. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

You are conversing with atheists, not idiots.

INFILTRATING, INGRATIATING, IMMERSING IN BAD FAITH, IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG?

It depends on circumstances.

Ivy is quite right that we humans are undeniably and irresistibly tribal. 99 percent of humans are this way. Even the rebels who strive for individuality are conformists in their own groups. Psychopaths, some autistics and other unusual…[Read more]

Reg with a stinger

In USA there are proposals to pay citizens to get the vaccine.

If adopted it could become interesting as Trump supporters will see this as confirmation of their conspiracy theories. But for 1500 will they be willing to risk zombieism?

The main thing is we must preserve the social order.

A tiny minority must have their yachts, sports cars, mansions and unlimited toys. And then all of the advantages of wealth-legacy admission to ivy schools, tax shelters, various laws that favor the wealthy, better doctors and the list goes on and on. It is fair though. They’ve earned it. They…[Read more]

The crazy thing is the masses vote against their interest. The Bernie sentiment does not penetrate when the notion of socialism is raised. I doubt the majority could even define socialism. They just know it is evil. Just saw an article about a science experiment regarding dogmatism. It confirmed that dogmatic humans do less investigation before…[Read more]

Yeah capitalism has a great many shortcomings. But this is Murica. God, guns and whiskey make us great. Oh and titty bars. So many get so married to their cherished beliefs that they have no possibility of approaching objectivity. The mere mention of the word socialism is the Scarlet Letter.

Not sure about that but i am about this-without credulous theists the cosmological/ontological arguments would have been swept up and dispatched by the tirelessly inefficient marketplace of idea.

You are right, Simon. And even those among us who are keenly aware that free will is at best conditioned are sort of forced to live like it is a thing.

no Simon…if there is defined and inalterable path humans follow then free will is ilusory…this game is stupid!

Unseen, that would be a case of deliberate indifference. It also would negate omniscience. If the entity willfully compartmentalizes then a realm of knowledge is missing and in so doing omniscience is negated.