Nerdy Keith

erock68la wrote:Should none of the scripture be taken just as it is written? Or just the “good” parts? Or just the “good” parts that don’t specifically call for action?

I understand not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but in this case the bathwater is a toxic, festering, bubbling, green sludge pool of a bath and the baby is drowning…

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@umar,

Ah I see; thank you for clarifying that. I kinda figured that you may not have a sufficient server to carry video streaming; thats understandable.

No worries; I’ll use forum threads until everything is ready.

erock68la wrote:By “too far” do you mean they follow the scripture literally, as it is written? What’s too far? To actually kill the people it says to kill? Is it too far to just hate and threaten the people it says to kill? Is it too far to try and use political influence and the power of government to discriminate against the people the scrip…

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Unseen wrote:What does “outside space and time” mean? For you to mean something by saying it, it must first mean something, so explain please. By my understanding of time, where there’s no time there’s no activity because activity is how we mark the passage of time. If there were no time, how did God ever get off the mark to start making the uni…

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Unseen wrote:And “PK” is what?

I think Umar means “YouTube is banned in Pakistan”. Its been blocked in quite a few coutnries over the years. China did something similar (not sure if thats still the case)

Matt wrote:Hi Keith, glad you decided to come across. FYI Deism != Theism, therefore Deism is aTheism. Therefore you are quite welcome to discuss such things in the correct forums (and personally I look forward to hearing more about it).

Well thank you Matt; I will certainly keep the site and community posted on my thoughts on the deism…[Read more]

Ok well if you are leaving I suppose that’s your choice Bob. Is it not an option to maybe learn from your mistakes with your approach on how you present certain topics?

Good luck to you either way

Unseen wrote:

If God is eternal then he exists in a context which is as eternal as he is. The multiverse? Why not a multiverse which operates on its own with no need of a god?

Also, if you believe in God, you believe in magic. Your God is a cosmic sorcerer who pulls universes out of empty space as a stage magician might pull doves out of his…

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Unseen wrote:Oh, so “it” might be busy creating other universes. Tell me: if universes need a first cause, but “it” doesn’t, then why do universes need a first cause?

Are you asking me who created the creator? The only answer I have for you regarding this; is that the God of Nature is likely eternal. Some atheists have a similar view on our unive…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:NK, I can tell you haven’t heard Prof. Lawrence Krauss’s lecture on “A Universe From Nothing.”

Universes can just happen.

Cool; I’ll check that out at some point when I have time to listen through it in full.

Unseen wrote:One of my biggest problems with theism transfers to deism as well, and that is that God needn’t exist due to Occam’s Razor. His existence makes explaining things more complicated and raises more questions than simply believing that things are as they are for reasons we may never know.

The idea of a first cause presumes that cau…

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Unseen wrote:So he’s inactively not done? Not done without interceding?

In a sense I suppose you could say that. However I am open to the idea that it (God) could be performing a similar process (or first cause) in another universe (if the multiverse theory is correct)

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:Hi Keith, good to hear from you again. Would it be more accurate if I reworded your opening sentence to read…..Deism is just where I’m at intellectually?

Hello again Reg; good to see you again too. Yes that sounds like a fair description to me.

Unseen wrote:
If it’s incomplete because God isn’t done with it, that seems to fly in the face of the deist position which I’ve seen defined as “belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe.”

If God isn’t done yet, in what sense are you a deist? If he is done, how is it that the un…

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Davis wrote:On one hand…completion is on its way…but on the otherhand…we can never say the universe is done.

Davis I was referring to this comment you made. I was just wondering what you meant by “completion is on its way”. I don’t actually view the universe as a project; I’m just open to the plausibility of it existing due to an external first…[Read more]