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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Why do the Brits do mysteries so much better… in the forum Small Talk 1 year, 9 months ago
Unseen wrote:
Well, in the States there are only a few distinct city accents.How about the movie Fargo? It’s set in Minnesota and it claims that a lot of people in that area speak like Scandinavians.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Why do the Brits do mysteries so much better… in the forum Small Talk 1 year, 9 months ago
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One thing I’ve discovered in watching British mysteries is the existence of numerous distinct local accents. A witness will say detect a Yorkshire or Manchester or London or whatever accent.Apparently it’s because of all the European countries that have invaded Britain in centuries or millennia past. The Scottish accent is like Sc…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 1 year, 9 months agoUnseen wrote:
the truth being that which is the case.Surely reality is that which is the case. Truth is a quality of a proposition. The proposition has a truth value: true or false.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 1 year, 9 months agoStrega wrote:
Truth doesn’t have to be logical and realistic. Fiction does.But truth / reality is logical, that’s one of its properties. If you pull out facts from here, there, and everywhere, you find that they are all consistent and sometimes form patterns.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Why do the Brits do mysteries so much better… in the forum Small Talk 1 year, 9 months ago
I’m glad you like our detective shows. I don’t watch anything apart from Judge Judy and real-life cops nicking people. But I know a lot of people are into these DCI dramas, I’ll try and get some recommendations.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 1 year, 9 months agoUnseen wrote:
The simplest definition of “the truth” is “the truth is that which is the case (whether you know it or not.”Surely it means “that proposition that corresponds with that which is the case” or “that proposition that is consistent with that which is the case”.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 1 year, 9 months agoUnseen wrote:
If something is true, it’s true even if no one knows it or will ever know it. If no one had ever discovered the Higgs boson, the thing would still exist.Yes, but is truth the same as existence? Surely truth is a quality of a measurement of existence. This measurement is an accurate representation of existence; or not. This prop…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 1 year, 10 months agoPopeBeanie wrote:
We’re just the result of billions of years of accidental survival, and replication, that happen to feel profound. Which I’m happy with.Exactly. We can’t have truth without a knower. What is truth without someone to judge it? When I say, I ought to help this old lady across the road, I am saying I feel I ought to do it.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 1 year, 10 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Philosophy was once alive.
This article is super-interesting. If I had to spend my life doing that kind of philosophy, I don’t think I would do it. It would make me feel like shooting myself.
Their whole problem is, with their meaning of life theories, is that they don’t have any idea what they’re talking a…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School June 23rd 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 1 year, 10 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Moral progress is annoying.The article seems to say that we find new norms odd, and therefore stupid, and therefore wrong, like the norms of foreigners (those swine). That sounds very plausible.
Our norms coordinate our group. A person from a distant area can know how to do things with me. If we change norms, we…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic We need to know why Trump is so popular in the forum Politics 1 year, 10 months ago
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Yeah, but didn’t anyone tell him that the number of voters who didn’t want him to touch Roe v. Wade was twice as big as those who did?That’s why, in his calculated, transactional, Machiavellian way, he’s been dialling back his support for anti-abortion issues.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic We need to know why Trump is so popular in the forum Politics 1 year, 10 months ago
I think Trump’s appeal is that he tells potential supporting demographics exactly what they want to hear, and promises them power. This way he corrupts everyone who gives him the time of day. The evangelicals, the entire Republican party. He didn’t care about abortion, until he realised the anti-abortionists would vote for him if they be…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
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You’re a relativist. Moral values are relative and not permanent over time.I guess. But I don’t think “anything goes”, based on my own values, and I can see that’s not the case for other people too.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
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And here I thought you were an absolutist who believe right and wrong are real. Turns out you’re a total relativist and have been all along.There is a multiplicity of values that have some kind of factual status. The Spartans had their values; we have ours and I have mine. They don’t always agree with each other.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
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And what “mutual benefit” derives from abandoning one’s baby…that benefits the baby? If one (or a social entity) gets to choose who benefits from actions and who doesn’t, that sure looks relativistic to me.It doesn’t benefit the baby. In the case of the African women, it is a form of abortion. In the Spartans, they didn’t valu…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
I think morality has the same factual status as do the correct ways to fix a bicycle. The problems are recurrent, the bike is real, the actions are real. What factual status do the correct fixing methods have?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
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The values available for an ancient Spartan to choose from would be far different from those available to a Quaker pacifist.That’s true, not many people would countenance throwing a baby off a cliff. However, according to Sarah Bleffer Hrdy in “Mothers and Others”, there are a surprising number of women living in the bush in…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
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They are also not built into the fabric of reality so that they were true, like 1+1=2, even before the Big Bang and after the last atom falls apart.The thing is, they are somewhat built into the fabric of reality, given the requirements that humans have to live in the way they do (collaboratively). The multiplicity of values…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
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By saying “one way,” out the window goes any pretense of absolutism or universality or objectivity.Sorry to burst your bubble – but I’m not sure what you’re after. It’s factually correct that people in need, need help. It’s always been the same the world over.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Moral Relativism in the forum Theism 1 year, 10 months ago
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Yeah, well “human well being” is something that societies define for themselves through mutual agreement and acceptance, and what that will be (we’re back to this) will vary from time to time and place to place.Morality is less about human well being, than about the process itself, of achieving it; and one way is through helpi…[Read more]
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