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  • #30962

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    I think I have it. It was in relation to a Multiverse debate. A guy comes home to his apartment to discover that everything he owns has been stolen and replaced with identical copies of itself. Then his friend arrives home and stares at him in alarm. “Who are you and how did you get in here”, he demands to know.

    No recollection of that at all. Perhaps we’re in a different branch of the universe.

    #30939

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    I think I have it. It was in relation to a Multiverse debate. A guy comes home to his apartment to discover that everything he owns has been stolen and replaced with identical copies of itself. Then his friend arrives home and stares at him in alarm. “Who are you and how did you get in here”, he demands to know.

    No bells. I’m pretty sure you were dropped into this universe from the one where I or someone said that.

    #30925

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    @unseen -please recount that story about the guy who woke up to find everything he owned was replaced by identical copies of itself. (from about 7 years ago on TA)

    LOL I’m going to have to depend on you or someone else because I don’t remember it. How did it go? What point was I making, if it had a point?

    #30902

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    Yes, in all probability it would have been difficult to predict we would get to this point. Seems rather a chaotic path to have taken but we will remain determined to freely post some more.

    LOL Let me throw a philosophical/logical wrench in the works. How can an infinitely branching system of universes be possible under determinism? It would seem that if determinism is anything, it is abolutely linear. How could a branching even be possible?

    Hilbert space is similar to multiple universe accept it does not exist in event space it is uncollapsed in the posited Hilbert space. If a volume is to be tiled aperiodically with quasicrystals there are multiple solutions yet each must be known a priori in order not tile into dead ends. How does nature know in advance if nature progress linearly? A Hilbert space of determined possibilities would be the answer. A cloud of working possibilities preceding everything or a wave. I posit based on the Penrose referenced experiment in his book “The emperors new mind”, that light will always find its way out of a periscopic maze comprised out of mirrors having 50% reflectivity going in the original direction it was traveling with a solution collapsed from Hilbert space just as in the original simple periscopic assembly experiment. This stuff is just as counter intuitive as a Hilsch tube.

    I’m many things to many people but one thing I’m not is a physicist. Any way to put that in a nutshell?

    #30886

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    Yes, in all probability it would have been difficult to predict we would get to this point. Seems rather a chaotic path to have taken but we will remain determined to freely post some more.

    LOL

    Let me throw a philosophical/logical wrench in the works. How can an infinitely branching system of universes be possible under determinism? It would seem that if determinism is anything, it is abolutely linear. How could a branching even be possible?

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    #30746

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    Wow, when I posted the original post, I never expected all this!

    #30674

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    I wonder how chaos theory fits in.

     

    #30671

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    I guess many would subsume this notion under the many worlds theory/hypothesis/conjecture/etc. Some people believe that whatever can happen will happen. I saw a movie recently where this was discussed and one character quipped along the line of “If that is true, is there anything more deterministic than that?”

    Quasicrystals have 5 fold symmetry. This implies a space is tiled non-periodically, thus in order for the crystal to grow it must know in priori the correct direction in which to grow. Roger Penrose first noted this in the book;The Emperors New Mind. He posited that unseen to causal space observers there is a Hibert space where all possibilities exist as a quantum mechanical cloud until a possibility collapses into event space. Thus the space is tiled in priori in event space by virtue of the only possibilities existing in Hilbert space uncollapsed. Thus the only thing that can happen will happen.

    “Thus the only thing that can happen will happen.” Sounds like determinism to me.

    #30551

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    I’m late to posting songs, but here’s one that came to mind:

    #30514

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    There is a pressure on the individual to reproduce. Is sex the best thing ever?

    I think you mean orgasms, not sex, at least for males. Rosie Palm doesn’t get pregnant, hit you up for alimony payments, nag you about the leaving the toilet seat up, or have a mother who hates your guts.

    #30497

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    Economic recession headed our way.

    DJI closed -2117.45 today. I think that’s the third time in a week of daily losses that the daily loss has been worse than -2000.

    #30494

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    How does the pressure to acquire resources translate into a pressure to reproduce?

    There’s no “pressure to reproduce.” What gives you that idea? Natural selection doesn’t operate under pressure. It is about as passive a process as could be.

    #30488

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    There is plenty of hand sanitizer on the store shelves. At least until the public gets wind of it. Then it will be gone, too.

    Find out about it here.

    #30482

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    But non-symptomatic people buying out the face masks is a bad idea, except for those who won’t otherwise get over the habit of touching their face.

    The typical kind of face mask is NOT effective for preventing exposure. It’s more useful for keeping infections from spreading from the person wearing the mask to others. I fear most of the people buying and hoarding and using these masks don’t understand this. When a doctor or nurse wears one, it’s to prevent inadvertently spreading a germ they carry but isn’t making them sick. This is to protect vulnerable patients. There are masks useful to some extent to protect from disease. They are designated N95 and I just checked Amazon. Out of stock until July 3 in one case. Those that are still available are not cheap, which may explain why they are still available.

    These little precautions they keep piling on are becoming absurd. I actually heard one “expert” ask “Are you disinfecting your keys when you come home?” That seems a bit far. Maybe I should burn my clothes when I get home.

    And with what. My grocery store and drug store are out of hand sanitizer, alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, and antibacterial soap.

    May I suggest that hand sanitizer, alcohol, etc., become by prescription only until the industry can catch up with demand.

    Touching one’s face is almost impossible to control. Most of the time, it’s not an intentional act (“And now I shall itch my nose”). There are hilarious videos of healthcare advisers saying we should not touch our face and then going ahead and doing so themselves.

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