MIG-TOW. Have you heard about it?

[UnseenParticipant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

What we need is a Minister for Men’s Behavior. That will solve everything. Why did Monty Python never think of this?

Reminds me of Vonnegut’s prescient Handicapper General.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Yes, and it may feel like 2081 has arrived sooner than expected the way it’s going.  1984 has lasted decades in some places!

[UnseenParticipant]

Many of today’s women have unrealistic financial expectations that probably fewer than than just the top 1% could satisfy. While millionaires are more common than they used to be due to inflation, it’s still a lot of money for most men. It’s reached the point where a man can live a happy life without the complications involved not just in marriage but even in dating. Listen to these women discussing their standards, and it’s no wonder they are being ignored.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

1984 has lasted decades in some places!

I wouldn’t necessarily call the directive Orwellian – just dumb and misplaced – it wouldn’t necessarily work very well.  On the other hand, it does get the subject onto the public agenda.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Unseen wrote:

Listen to these women discussing their standards, and it’s no wonder they are being ignored.

It’s true that women have had a tendency to rely on men financially.  Why would this be?  Two possible reasons: 1) the gilded cage of patriarchy, which likes women to be dependent and subservient; 2) women rely on resources to raise children.

[UnseenParticipant]

Simon Paynton wrote:

It’s true that women have had a tendency to rely on men financially.  Why would this be?  Two possible reasons: 1) the gilded cage of patriarchy, which likes women to be dependent and subservient; 2) women rely on resources to raise children.

I can’t help but notice the absence of a risk vs. reward benefit telling men to get involved in a committed way with women or even in an uncommitted way, because a quick hump in the alley behind the bar can result in a guy paying the woman to raise children she won’t even let him be a father to.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Unseen wrote:

a quick hump in the alley behind the bar can result in a guy paying the woman to raise children she won’t even let him be a father to.

Maybe it could, but – don’t you watch Judge Judy? – it’s still his responsibility, and he can apply to the court for visitation or partial custody, if he were so disposed.

[UnseenParticipant]

A high percentage of these women exhibit two things: 1) no empathy for the role of the male in today’s scene; 2) a sense of entitlement, as though the world owes them a partner.

Just a question or two for you guys: 1) The first gal has an arm full of tattoos. Tom Leykis used to give the advice that if y9u want to get laid that night, concentrate on the women with tattoos, because they don’t treat their body like a temple, but more like a billboard. 2) The problem the second woman has is that her teen and twenties years are far behind her and she probably also has no idea how weird those botoxed-to-shit lips look.

As you may know, I worked in the erotica industry taking pictures of naked women, 95% of them well under 30, and I can tell you that few women can hold on long to the perfection her body diplayed at age 18 (the minimum legal age for an erotica model). She can hold onto most of it through age 20 or even 21 sometimes. However, as early as the mid-20’s the bloom is falling off the pumpkin, so to speak. I’ll show you what three of the 18 year old models I worked with looked like.

 

 

 

 

[UnseenParticipant]

I’m no longer participating in the dating game but in this video, which features two women, I wonder if your reaction is the same as mine. First, I probably would not be interested in a woman with much more than a little doodad of a tattoo unless I just wanted a one night stand. Tom Leykis said that if you are out in a meat market and want to find the ones who are out looking for sex, start with the ones who have tattoos, because rather than treating their body like a temple, they are treating  it like a billboard. As for the second one, I wonder if she realizes that her heavily botoxed lips look like a pair of earthworms dancing on her face when she talks. She is wayyyy beyond her expiration date and she’s holding out for the guy who will chase her? Long wait ahead.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Unseen wrote:

A high percentage of these women exhibit two things: 1) no empathy for the role of the male in today’s scene; 2) a sense of entitlement, as though the world owes them a partner.

What does it mean to be a beautiful woman?  They go through life like movie stars or celebrities.  This is going to make some of them feel entitled.

I also think it’s true that women demand to be looked at, albeit respectfully.  I think the female psyche relies on being admired physically more than that of men.  Men admire themselves already, they know they look like a million dollars.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

I was in a bar once when a very well dressed and attractive woman came in. She sat at the bar and ordered a coffee and began reading a book. I noticed it was Anna Karenina which I thought very strange to be reading in a bar. Within 10 minutes 2 guys hit on her. She politely shot down their advances. As I wasn’t drinking alcohol I ordered a second coffee.

She commented to me that it was unusual to see a man drinking coffee at the bar. I said, with a smile, that “it would be unusual for you to meet your Count Vronsky in here too”.  She laughed and asked “have you have read the book?”

“Dah, but I prefer the story of the unrequited love between Levin and Kitty that takes its time to come to fruition. It reminded me of the opening line of Love in the time of Cholera. Would you like another coffee?

Staring competition.

Me: The almond milk does not taste bitter, does it?

Are you trying to chat me up?

No, you are too intelligent to fall for a chat up line. You must be so bored of men coming up to you just to admire your intelligence………

[UnseenParticipant]

@ Simon

What makes women attractive doesn’t end with having a high sexual stimulus value. She also has to give the guy the feeling that she’s not contending to be the alpha in the relationship and that she’s got no hidden agenda. That starts with not treating him like a “foodie call,” a guy who’s good for a night out at a restaurant and/or concert but with little given in return, certainly not sex. The commitment women want is often a one way street, when it’s not a trap.

I think most men who call an attractive woman for a date proposing a nice restaurant and gets a counter proposal like “Instead, why not come over here. I’ll cook dinner and we’ll watch (movie) that I’ve been wanting to see for a l0ng time.” And the movie turns out not to be a rom com but a movie both sexes can enjoy together.

To me, that’s a woman I’d consider a keeper. I’d show up with better than average bottle of wine.

[_Robert_Participant]

I have found that once something about you triggers a woman to want you, they often become relentless especially if they have competition. Especially the real beauties. It’s like a switch goes off in their head. Women are way more competitive than men and can be vicious.

 

[UnseenParticipant]

_Robert_ wrote:

I have found that once something about you triggers a woman to want you, they often become relentless especially if they have competition. Especially the real beauties. It’s like a switch goes off in their head. Women are way more competitive than men and can be vicious.

In my one and only attempt to connect with a woman online, I did meet with a fairly good-looking (for he rage) woman. We ended up in my place and I had a BJ just bestowed on me without my even trying to make out. The next thing I knew she was calling me all the time to get together again. After having to answer the phone several times after 3 a.m. one night, I finally told her not to call me ever again or I’d be talking to the local prosecutor about harassment. I was luck: she backed off. That took place in a period of about five days or a week.

I think that’s when I joined MG-TOW even though it wasn’t a “thing” yet.

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[UnseenParticipant]

Here’s a woman who finally got what men’s issues are all about, and suffered the consequences. (BTW,  she is one of the most beautiful women I’ve ever seen in my 77 years as well.)

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