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  • #3883

    Belle Rose
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    I said it before on TA and everyone told me I was crazy…..we are headed for WW3. I said “It will happen in the next 6 months…

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/29/asia/north-korea-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-test/index.html

    Believe me now?

     

     

    #3884

    Simon Paynton
    Participant

    To be fair, I think this is squarely the fault of North Korea.

    #3885

    JadeBlackOlive
    Participant

    I believe there will be war too, & I have NEVER said you were crazy, but you are sounding like a continual, endless broken record!

    What are we supposed to do about that here?????!!!!!

    #3886

    Belle Rose
    Participant

    What are we supposed to do about that here?????!!!!!

    There is a lot “WE” can do. We the people….

    But the first step towards solving any problem is to ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM! I would say that responsibility falls on all of “our” shoulders (As in US citizens) who elected this…..I don’t even have enough expletives to describe him accurately at this point.

    “We the people” need to WAKE UP. Get off our twitter addicted ASSES and do something. Trump is leading us straight into a war. And I sort of think he’s doing it on purpose. I think Trump is dying to play with his toys and hit that red button.

     

    #3887

    _Robert_
    Participant

    The only military option is to take out all (estimated at between 10 to 30) of their warheads, missiles, production and leadership in a preemptive strike. I doubt we even know where they all are. If we didn’t hit them 5 years ago, why would we hit them now? Perhaps we have better intelligence? I doubt it.

    If we did attack them, we can expect at least a few of their 10-30 Kiloton bombs to hit cities. Thousands or millions would die. And a few minutes later North Korea will cease to exist.

    I imagine the international community will force Russia and China to pressure N. Korea big time now.

    #3890

    PopeBeanie
    Moderator

    But the first step towards solving any problem is to ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM! I would say that responsibility falls on all of “our” shoulders (As in US citizens) who elected this…..I don’t even have enough expletives to describe him accurately at this point.

    Acknowledged.

    Now what?

    Now, maybe this isn’t acknowledging what you’re asking for, but I happen to feel that this is an exceptional case for Trump, in that he’s just as likely to help solve the NK problem as much as anyone. He’s unpredictable, and the rest of the world is likely more worried about NK than they would be with a stable president. IMO, it’s very likely that the best “solution” will be instability at the highest levels in NK… meaning regime change, which has to happen from within.

    In the destabilized NK scenario, China is the most likely country to take on the role of bringing NK back to some kind of sanity, even if it’s a modern iteration of communism. Just like the rest of the world, they don’t want nukes to be used unexpectedly, either. If/when we get to the point of regime change managed by China, that’s when I’ll worry more about Trump’s instability and ulterior motives.

    #3900

    Belle Rose
    Participant

    Acknowledged.

    Now What?

    We need to impeach Trump.

    #3913

    Strega
    Moderator

    I don’t think there’s ever been an impeachment that resulted in the departure of a sitting President.  Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.

    To impeach, you need a significant majority of congress to unite.  This is practically impossible at present with the Republican majority.  If the democrats turn that around in 2018, then there is a small possibility impeachment might proceed.  Until then, and in the light of the above, calling for impeachment is as likely to be beneficial as calling to Zeus to strike Trump with a thunderbolt.

    Whats Plan B?

    #3914

    Belle Rose
    Participant

    Hopefully Mueller finds him and his entire family guilty of treason and they all get thrown in prison…..

    #3915

    Strega
    Moderator

    So Plan B is hope?

    #3919

    Belle Rose
    Participant

    I know there are other ways he can be impeached. I am just still amazed at how many people keep enabling him.

    #3920

    Strega
    Moderator

    If you are holding out for impeachment, perhaps you should scan over this easy-to-read snippet on the matter of presidential impeachment…  https://www.thoughtco.com/presidents-who-were-impeached-3368130.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by  Strega.
    #3922

    Let’s wait and see how Plan A works out first.

    #3923

    Strega
    Moderator

    This is Plan A?

    If the Trump administration sticks to power politics, the best of the bad options might be to attack at the earliest stage, before North Korea acquires a fully deliverable nuclear capacity.

    #3924

    We might need plans C, D and E in a few hours’ time. NK are unlikely to do anything that will annoy China too much. Trump can rattle his sabres back at NK but China will step in and act “diplomatically” to show the world that they are the new superpower. NK have had the opportunity to attack up to 30k US soldiers on its southern border for years.  Any ICBM’s fired towards the USA will be shot down. NK will also not attack Seoul as thousands of Chinese live and work there. What’s the latest on Obamacare?

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