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[jakelafortParticipant]

Check this shit out man.

Zionism? Endless calumniation of Jews. The wandering Jews. Stateless Jews since antiquity. Exiled. Persecuted. Mother of all oppressed peoples. People who were not terrorists. Were not proselytizing like Christians or Muslims. Just wanted to live unmolested and assimilate. Nobody protected them. Nobody cared. I could not even finish the Abandonment of the Jews.

No parallel concept to zionism for any other state. State of Israel formed in the wake of crumbling empires that quite naturally produced nationalism. Other states that were born at same time had far greater displacement and numbers of dead in war. Not even close. And nobody actually GAVE the Jews jacks shit. They earned it in blood AGAIN. The Arabs attacked. Not the Jews. Granting both people aspirations towards statehood although i really think it is not close in terms of justification but i wont elaborate. They attacked. They wanted it all. They have never altered their real ambition of no Jewish state.

The former enemies are citizens with full rights and in many ways better integrated as Israelis than Europeans have managed with Arab Muslims. And yet Zionism? If any people are OWED a state it is Jews. In Arab Muslim lands Jews lived as third class citizens. Constant humliation and special discriminatory laws and customs. No need to detail Jews in Europe and Eastern Europe/Russia. And yet zionism? The new cover for Jew hatred. Not much cover at all really. Now look at this shit. Why should a theocracy have a right to exist? Where is that notion?

tps://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-858692

[UnseenParticipant]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

North Korea…can get their oil elsewhere. All this makes Iran’s options rather limited without domestic production.

I’d worry most about N. Korea. They have nuclear weapons, as you said, and are even better than Trump at seeming both hostile and unpredictable. Even if they gave Iran some nuclear missiles without any secrecy whatsoever, I don’t know which is the most terrifying option: for Trump to try to stop them or for Trump not to try to stop them.

[UnseenParticipant]

Anyone who doesn’t see a potential for WW3 here has their head up their ass.

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[UnseenParticipant]

What Bibi wants, Bibi gets. Israel pretty much gets its own seat at Trump’s Security Council. For totally unbiased contributions, no doubt. Our supposed “allies” like the UK, France, Germany, etc., don’t even get that privilege.

Oh, but am I wrong in thinking they are allies anymore?

https://youtube.com/shorts/5Dsu2uJI-9o?si=ejAhChJJW_FABybW

 

• This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by  Unseen.

[UnseenParticipant]

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

By the way, by making his announcement, Medvedev just conceded what all the “Intel” in the West and all the Wokesters and Useful Idiots are in denial over: that the Mullahs in Iran want nuclear weapons, whether self-produced or purchased.

So are you and Medvedev saying: “What Khamenei wants, Khamenei gets?”

[_Robert_Participant]

If that token, pre-announced missile attack by Iran is all they are planning, the mullahs are afraid and just want to save their butts and their regime. Can they close the straights and choke China bound oil? They don’t even own their national airspace. They may smell revolt along with support, in the air. They are in a pickle.

Israel may not be satisfied with negotiating yet. I think they want a decisive end to that Iranian regime. Trump may be in a pickle as well.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Israel may not be satisfied with negotiating yet. I think they want a decisive end to that Iranian regime.

I can’t see any other viable option for Israel. If the Iranian regime is not ended, it will grow another ugly head and just start to refinance and restock Hamas and Hezbollah, both of whom are terrorist branches of Iran.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Logical Reg but news is probable ceasefire.

[_Robert_Participant]

Didn’t hear anything about a deal. So, Iran can just rebuild? Hell, they may have enough stuff to make a bomb now. It would not surprise me if the ceasefire by Israel was a pre-condition for US bombs. One false flag by Israel or one Iranian screw up and it’s all on again.

[jakelafortParticipant]

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-858746

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-858739

[_Robert_Participant]

And to think Trump could just be playing golf every day and winning championships all the goddam time. He’s just that fucking good. Maybe a cameo in a stupid movie once in a while. Even grabbing some pussy too, cause like he says, being famous he can do that.

[PopeBeanieModerator]

Unseen, I’ve liked the Midas Touch guy (and the other guy who’s often with him), but this is the first “panic mode” performance from him I’ve seen. And he’s the one saying others are in panic mode. Shit, practically everyone is in panic mode now, I think even you?

I’m not mocking you, I feel for you. My point, since so many are in panic mode and I’m not, I have to say that panic mode is a bad place to be when situations need to be calmly addressed. And this also applies to Trump. Although I think for Trump, he’s not panicking as much as he’s probably walking around the oval office with an erection he has no control over, probably freaking out his staff?

Trump lives for this kind of center of attention, and now he’s swimming in it. I wonder if he’s even able to sleep at all?

[PopeBeanieModerator]

Mullah-land has to be feeling pretty defeated right now, and more cautious about their next move(s), while still responding somehow, even if mostly symbolically. They don’t care about the Iranian people as much as they care about how they look in the eyes of Allah. And their perception of what Allah probably wants from them is myopic, indeed. Perhaps even hallucinatory.

[PopeBeanieModerator]

Late edit: Oops, I swear I wasn’t trolling here. I didn’t watch the whole video before posting it. It’s obviously not just “reporting”, but also editorial. 🙂

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