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[PopeBeanieModerator]

I’m currently in skimming mode for most long posts, but this paragraph popped out, as I’m feeling again how much I hate ads for products that will never interest me.

jakelafort wrote:

The answer/solution is so simple. It lies in what i keep saying here how humans can be led like dogs can be conditioned. We will as a species believe and behave any which way we are conditioned. Do i have to give examples?

It must be, after all, swayable humans who prove ads to be a successful strategy in business models, even when ad birdshot find only a few of the most maleable brains.

Hi Jake. Evolution of Humans is half of my doctoral thesis, and as a double major, it includes a TV screenplay, “Humanity: Smork and Prot”, a pilot for K-PAK Studios back home.

Theme: If all humans were Jewish, life on Earth would be eternally peaceful, and an entertaining sitcom. Humanism and science courses belong in primary school. Races and genders mix freely. The Left and The Right compete in sporting events.

“No Laugh Track” will be in my contract, to enhance the dry humor.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Pope,

I see you chose to address nonofit even for the funofit.

No certainty as to what you are going on about. Only hunches. So i asked meta and here is the response.

This text appears to be a satirical response to your original post. The author is using humor and irony to make several points, including [1]:
– Critique of advertising: The mention of “ad birdshot” and “swayable humans” suggests that the author believes advertising can manipulate people’s thoughts and behaviors.
– Tongue-in-cheek thesis proposal: The claim that the author’s doctoral thesis explores the idea that a world where all humans are Jewish would be eternally peaceful is likely meant to be humorous and thought-provoking.
– Satirical take on social issues: The author’s suggestions that humanism and science courses should be taught in primary school, and that races and genders should mix freely, are likely meant to highlight the absurdity of these ideas being controversial.
– Playful jab at politics: The idea of the Left and Right competing in sporting events is a satirical commentary on the often-divisive nature of politics.

The tone of the text is lighthearted and humorous, with a touch of absurdity. It’s possible that the author is poking fun at various aspects of society, politics, and culture.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco,

Listened to the inimitable, incomparable Wilfster.

Excellent video. I’d certainly want her on a panel to debate the Lefties/Islamists. A font of knowledge and wisdom borne of reflection and acuity. Good luck taking her down. Though starting as a lefty in Israel experience taught her that putative Palestinian grievances are not the cause of the resistance to statehood or rather no Jewish statehood and the never ending war against Israel. She talks about Ernest Bevin the British Foreign Secretary during the mandate who was an antisemite but reported an irreconcilable conflict with Jews wanting a state and Arabs not wanting Jews to have a state. Nothing has changed in the intervening years. Never was about land for Arabs or state for Arabs.

She addresses what it will take to change the never-ending war against Israel. Pretty much same thing i have been saying. Not that it has much chance for success any time soon and probably ever. Nevertheless it is imperative that supporters of Israel or just plain human decency fight back in the war of ideas. The lefties are stark fucking naked. Their mythology is only mythology. Their interpretation of history is infantile and racist. And yet they are making more and more inroads into the zeitgeist of the west.

Meanwhile the Muslims can persecute minorities, each other, Jews and live in a mindbendingly oppressive cult and for the lefties their ideology takes precedence over concern for human right abuse and every conceivable form of oppression and persecution. It is islamophobic to protect Muslims who are being persecuted. They constantly oppose free speech like a medieval church when the speech is critical of their dogma. All of the problems in the world and it is ISRAEL ISRAEL ad nauseum. So little coverage of Ukraine and less still; a lot less of the horror shows in Sudan and Yemen et al. It is so fucked up. It is so racist to ascribe innate characteristics to Whites or Jews who are oppressors and Arabs or Blacks who are oppressed. Those Arabs came out of the Arabian Peninsula and Arabized the middle east through the sword. Ethnic minorities all over the middle east with distinctive cultures/religions became Arabs. And now Islamists, millions of them, are working on taking over the world and the lefties are their partners in this enterprise but please don’t compare cultures! Cultural relativism demands we recognize that the values of one culture are no better or worse than another. So keep on raping little girls old man Muslim and beat the shit out of your wife and then murder some gays and the ultimate dream rape and murder Jews after torturing them.

Oh but the Jews are the white colonial settlers practicing apartheid on their Arab citizens while most are not white and they ended British colonialism and were not in any way shape or form similar to what we mean by Colonialism/imperialism. The same colonial imperialists were the ones who were oppressing Jews all over the globe. It is the displacement of indigenous people by the colonizers that causes their “resistance” cough cough. I gotta stop cuz i could go on for hours.

[_Robert_Participant]

I would characterize Israel to be way more “left/liberal” than right/conservative Iran.  Jews have comprised much of the leading liberal Intelligentsia in many Western countries for decades. Historically, Israel was dominated by left-leaning parties but has become more conservative and defensive over the decades. Easy to see why.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Agreed Robert.

And don’t forget how big kibbutzim were. Socialist project. Universal health care according to Wilf.

Not only are Israelis turning right as the two state solution has proven illusory and more and more Israelis know that. Jews in US and Europe voting right and in some instances far right that would have been unthinkable not long ago as the lefties produce more and more Jew hatred.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Jake,

And don’t forget how big kibbutzim were. Socialist project. Universal health care according to Wilf.

Here’s where she got out of her depth. Iran too has a heavily government-subsidized and government-regulated health care system, with very mixed results. Maybe better than some of their neighbors, but with all the same problems of shortages, waste, and brain drains of other socialized systems. Put it like this, that gift horse may look pretty, but has hoof-and-mouth, mange, rabies, and heart worms that all the Ivermectin in the world couldn’t cure.

Healthcare in Iran–Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Iran

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Jake,

In fairness, Israel’s system has advantages over Iran’s, most especially with research and development.

It is also worthy of note that Arab Citizens have the same healthcare rights as Jewish Citizens, and Israeli medical establishments and organizations cater to all faiths and none. Israel accepts medical tourism from Palestinians and others. Israel also served Syrian victims of the Syrian Civil War, Non-Citizen Residents and even illegal Residents of Israel.

However, as with all socialized systems, there are waiting lines to get into Israeli hospitals. hospital beds per 1000 are less than Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development standards and stays are shorter than average OECD stays. Patients complain of the quality and get secondary insurance for this reason, and private hospitals offer more amenities.

Israel, like other socialized systems, also has shortages of Physicians and Nurses and graduates from their medical schools. Israel also has 10,000 licensed Physicians who do not even practice. Israel only recently approved of more roles for Non-Physician Medical Assistants.

All is not resting under the olive tree in the land of milk and honey. Israel, like all of us, could use more medicine, more professionals, and more quality in both, provided by a free market in healthcare.

Healthcare in Israel–Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel

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[jakelafortParticipant]

Globalize the intifada.

Rivers and seas Palestine freeze…errr From some river and some sea Juden free

I gotta hand it to the lefties doing the bidding of the muslim brotherhood. Indoctrinating the mindless immensely. You are all aces. Humans can be conditioned to believe anything. I think i heard that someplace?

https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/article-859156

[PopeBeanieModerator]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

Israel, like all of us, could use more medicine, more professionals, and more quality in both, provided by a free market in healthcare.

Which countries are successful at this kind of free market?

[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco, it seems like more and more nurse practitioners/physician assistants in my neck of the woods. Really not enough docs. And docs are so overworked i think that it is understandable that they can’t always give good care. And that is without dealing with issues over insurers and coverage.

But with the nondocs having patients they are in general i think very conscientious and sometimes very knowledgeable. In Israel i imagine even if they did not intend to otherwise with all of the injured from war and terrorism they have to expand their network.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

And docs are so overworked i think that it is understandable that they can’t always give good care.

One of my professional roles is to improve the IT systems of small medical practices. Most are owned by one MD with maybe a 2 or 3 other medical staff. They close every Wednesday afternoon. I once asked what she did for those afternoons. “About 5 or 6 hours of paperwork” came the reply. I put a few systems in place and now they get to go home or “anywhere but here”. Even being able to do certain follow-ups via Zoom or Teams and emailing scripts directly to the px’s preferred pharmacy saves so much time.

But the system overall is creaking. So many local surgeries are unable to take on new px’s as they are at capacity already. In Ireland, children under the age of 8 are eligible for free GP visits. This is provided through the Under 8s GP Visit Card scheme, which also includes free assessments at ages 2 and 5, and out-of-hours urgent GP care. Additionally, inpatient services are free for children under 16 in public hospitals. Just not enough doctors, like everywhere else.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Reg, you just described my last physician. One MD. Two person staff. And he told me last few years was not even drawing a check.

I can well imagine the boon delivered by you in those time saving services.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

PopeBeanie,

Which countries are successful at this kind of free market?

No nation yet has a fully free-market health care system of course, but the producers of the medical devices and medicines are all private enterprises, the builders of the facilities are all private enterprises, at least some medical universities are private enterprises, and at least some providers of capital for research and development are private enterprises, so there is a start. Now we need the Oliverian more and to get rid of barriers to getting more.

More than can be addressed in a single post, but something to work on. Some of the more recent examples are court cases against State medical boards who require Certificates of Need for medical equipment like MRI and CT scanners and for building of more hospital facilities, campaigns to get contraception sold over-the-counter instead of by prescription, new laws to allow Nurses and Assistants to do certain treatments without a Doctors license. And more to be done.

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[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Fellow Unbelievers,

No Doctor I have works in their practice 5 days a week. Probably from paperwork. Two of my past Doctors retired after Obamacare, both were very good in their reespective fields. Both were fairly young, too, so I suspect they didn’t want the burden of what would come next.

So this means I liked them, but didn’t get to keep them.

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[UnseenParticipant]

IDF soldiers are reporting they are ordered to shoot Palestinians lining up for food. I call this terrorism.

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