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Sunday School June 9th 2024.

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    June 6th was Atheist Pride Day! I was spending the day herding cats until I heard that Jesus died with an erection and spent the rest of the day making up bad puns about it.

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    Sunday Book Club: Cold War 2.0

    Podcast: The Illusion of Free Will.

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    While you are waiting for the kettle to boil……

    Coffee Break Videos:  Debate: Christopher Hitchens vs. Douglas Wilson. The Ideological subversion of science. Solving the secrets of gravity – with (the very clever and articulate) Claudia de Rham. Douglas Murray: “The rise of anti-Semitism is a sign of a society in decline”. My conversation with two Christian hate-preachers.

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    Have a great week!

    #53990

    Strega
    Moderator

    Thanks, Reg!

    #53995

    TheEncogitationer
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    Reg,

    Why counterfeit Ozempic is a Global-Growth Industry.

    Last year, after I was diagnosed with Rhabdomyolysis, my Doctor also prescribed me Mounjaro to give my pancreas a kick-start it needed. It got my blood sugar down to 80 mg/DL, helped me lose weight, and also had the great side effect of suppressing my appetite! For me, this tirzepatide Mounjaro worked wonderfully with no side effects!

    The only reason I only used Mounjaro for 2 months is that it is damn expensive! $110 for a month’s supply with insurance!

    Making this and other drugs Over the Counter–combined with deregulating selling of organs and vat-grown pancreases to replace bad pancreases and/or make more insulin–would remedy this problem, as well as take the profits away from counterfeiters and peddlers of Woo.

    Yes, Doctors and Pharmacists can still give advice-and-consent without prescription laws and those who might abuse drugs still do so with prescription laws, so prescription laws are a useless added expense that actually get in the way of conscientious patients affording needed health care.

    Curiously enough, most proponents of reproductive freedom in the U.S. do not propose making contraceptives Over The Counter. That is a serious flaw on their part which they need to correct, since more ubiquitous contraception would make outlawing contraception much harder.

    Meanwhile, I am doing fairly alright just from the brief use of Mounjaro, since it reminded me of just how little I need to keep my frame functional. My only binge since then was a bout of stress-eating on Memorial Day Weekend and I lost that weight quickly. It also helps that I stand 2 hours at a time at work and burn anywhere from 6 to 11 miles according to my fitness watch, so I am not sedentary.

    Yep, living to fight the good fight another day, but I wish others could do the same. Getting government out of the way would be a big help to us all.

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    @Enco  – Good to hear you have made inroads into your recovery. Rhabdomyolysis is not a condition I have much knowledge of but it does sound like it can be life altering, at least until it is properly managed. I think it is disgraceful the way that pharmaceutical based medicine is run as an industry. In Ireland Ozempic is readily available to people with diabetics (often at no cost to them) and I know some people who have really benefited from it. Walking 6+ miles daily is also a great treatment!  My minimum is 10K ‘fitbit’ steps per day. Getting big pharma lobbyists out of Washington would also help.

    #53997

    unapologetic
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    Dam, I missed Atheist Day. (I hadn’t even heard of it).

    A reminder, just so we don’t miss it: International Blasphemy Day is Sept. 30,  2024. I celebrate it every year.

    #53998

    Dam, I missed Atheist Day. (I hadn’t even heard of it).

    I had heard of it but completely forgotten about it. Hence my comment about herding cats……which is generally easier to do than getting atheists organized for a meet-up 🙂

    A reminder, just so we don’t miss it: International Blasphemy Day is Sept. 30,  2024. I celebrate it every year.

    I still wear my t-shirt that reads “I blaspheme all gods except yours”  or “Why do imaginary gods make people so violent?”

    #53999

    unapologetic
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    Re. Oklahoma students visiting churches:

    I remember in the 60s, just after prayer was taken out of schools. In Jr High, in PA, we were given time out to visit churches in walking distance. I remember 2 I went to. I don’t remember the denominations or their dogma. Those 2 weren’t baptist. They didn’t need to be your church. I don’t know how long that program lasted. We didn’t do it in high school.

    #54000

    Unseen
    Participant

    @ Reg

    Was Jesus gay? I had a  gay acquaintance in college who observed, correctly, that there was little evidence Jesus was heterosexual. He told me he thought Jesus was gay. I asked, “Really? I wonder if he was a spitter or swallower.” No reply.

    #54001

    Simon Paynton
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    No reply.

    He turned the other cheek.

    More to the point, Jesus never said anything anti-gay, beyond “I accept the Old Testament”, which he clearly didn’t entirely do.

    #54002

    TheEncogitationer
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    Reg,

    I think it is disgraceful the way that pharmaceutical based medicine is run as an industry.

    Well industry is what funds the Research & Development that makes the medicine possible, as well as does the mass production of the medicine.

    All that universal heath care does is place the subsidy and distribution of the industry-made medicine in the hands of the government, which means lines or rationing for the so-called “free” medicine and overworked Physcians and Nurses when the number of patients outstrips the supply. And overwork also leads people to reconsider entering or staying in the medical profession, making supply of service even less.

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    _Robert_
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    No reply.

    He turned the other cheek. More to the point, Jesus never said anything anti-gay, beyond “I accept the Old Testament”, which he clearly didn’t entirely do.

    I think there is a good chance he was just a mythical character not unlike Romulus, who was also “set into history” by promoters. Obviously, when you strip away the miraculous events, if he did exist, there would be little reason to document his existence except for that “king of the Jews” bit. There is no way to prove the few non-Biblical mentions are independent of the Gospels and even then, some mentions could be later forgeries because of language irregularities. Oddly, Paul, the earliest promoter, states he only knew Jesus via spiritual revelation and speaks nothing of earthly existence.

    #54006

    Simon Paynton
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    I think there is a good chance he was just a mythical character not unlike Romulus, who was also “set into history” by promoters.

    OK but even the Jesus of the Bible, in the New Testament, doesn’t say anything anti-gay.

    #54007

    _Robert_
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    I think there is a good chance he was just a mythical character not unlike Romulus, who was also “set into history” by promoters.

    OK but even the Jesus of the Bible, in the New Testament, doesn’t say anything anti-gay.

    Yeah, there is this, subject to interpretation as usual.

    In Mark 7: 20-23 (KJV) it says:

    And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, sexual impurities, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

    Whether these lists include homosexuality depends on the translation of porneia (sexual impurity).

     

     

    And  there is a bit in the NT from Paul.

    1 Timothy 1:9-10
    King James Version (1611): “Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine”
    The term relevant to homosexuality, “that defile themselves with mankind”, translates ἀρσενοκοίτης (‘arsenokoitēs’), the same term for homosexuals used in 1 Corinthians. Other translations of the term include: “them that do lechery with men” (Wycliffe 1382), “those practicing homosexuality” (NIV), “those who abuse themselves with men” (Amplified Version, 1987).

    It’s not like Jesus pronounces being gay is now OK, either, so status quo. The early church was trying to recruit gentiles, who were largely OK with homosexually, so why make waves?

    #54008

    Simon Paynton
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    Well, I guess that’s a resounding “meh” from Jesus about homosexuality.  He didn’t talk about it much, but didn’t apparently like it.

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