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Sunday School September 10th 2017
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September 10, 2017 at 12:44 pm #4813
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorThe number of atheists in Britain is at an all-time high and white Christians are now a minority among the US population. Does that mean atheists could be nicer people than believers or are we just potential serial killers? Some of the time it’s more about politics than faith but it might be better if we all embraced secularism.
Florida Gov. Rick Perry has ignored climate change risks as the religionists come up with their own ideas about its causes.
A priest in Australia confirms he is a shithead.
The lark at the Ark in the Park has been earmarked for $1.8 million in tax rebates.
I would not like to see the Bible banned but sold from the “Fiction” section in shops.
A look at the religiosity of Hitler.
This weeks’ Woo: “World’s number 1 anti-vaxxer” is denied entry to Australia. Personally I think he should be considered a number two.
Climate Change: The world is facing a global sand crisis.
On a clear night can you see for 45.3 billion light years?
A massive genetic study of DNA shows us how humans are evolving. What can particles tell us about the evolution of the Universe? Why does it all put so much effort into resisting disorder?
Did praying lead to the invention of gods?
The rise of a Moral Panic.
Farewell Cassini ….it’s better you burn out than fade away as Voyager heads to infinity and beyond.
Could “Information” be part of the bridge between Relativity and QM?
Ten things we did not know last week. (not yet online). Some photographs taken last week.
While you are waiting for the kettle to boil…..
Lazy Sunday Long Reads: The trails of a Muslim cop. In praise of Idleness.
Coffee Break Video: How to navigate questionable information. Did the Universe begin?
September 10, 2017 at 12:45 pm #4814
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorHave a great week everyone!!
There is a significant difference between having no belief in a God and believing there is no God.
Michael Shermer.
September 10, 2017 at 1:55 pm #4815
StregaModeratorYay! Sunday school! Thanks Reg!
September 10, 2017 at 3:57 pm #4817
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorI have been watching the news from Florida and during one interview Rick Perry used the words “pray” or “prayer” several times. “The best thing you can do to help is pray for us. You could also volunteer or donate aid”. Yes Rick, you have your priorities in the right order. Prayer is bound to be more effective than taking action.
September 10, 2017 at 6:13 pm #4818
StregaModeratorI sent a request to the Hemmingway cat home to ask if there was anything I could do, and they replied “include us in your prayers”. So I replied “not religious here. Was thinking of something more earthly”. No response- I gather I may have offended the cat gods….
Some cat-astrophe!
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Strega. Reason: To put a pun in before Reg could
September 10, 2017 at 7:09 pm #4820
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorI have stray cats that hang out in the back garden and live in one of the sheds. There are two that sleep all day. I call them “Thoughts” and “Prayers” because they don’t ever seem to do anything.
September 10, 2017 at 8:36 pm #4821
PopeBeanieModeratorHurricane Prayer
Oh great, benificent, loving, omnipotent God please lighten up a bit on thy wrath.
September 10, 2017 at 9:18 pm #4822
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorAccording to some liars for Jesus it is all part of a Divine plan. They will pray to their God to alter his plan as they are not happy with it or not willing to accept it. It is because their God has the freewill to change his mind and they are pious enough to believe he would do such a thing just because they used their powers of telepathy to ask him.
I feel sorry for their God.
“Enough with the beseeching already!! Can’t you lot just accept my divine decision and stop begging me to change it. Everyday with the wailing and complaining!! Even the atheists can see how pointless your prayers are. So give it a break and learn some humility. That is how you get blessed. And it is Sunday – My day off!! Did I stutter when I commanded that??
September 10, 2017 at 10:53 pm #4824.
ParticipantThank you for Sunday school!!!!
RE: There is a significant difference between having no belief in a God and believing there is no God.
No, there is a distinct reason atheists insist there is though…
September 10, 2017 at 11:58 pm #4825
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorThanks Belle.
You can’t see the distinction? The same can be said for theists. All theists hold no belief in many gods while believing there is just one god – their particular god. Other theists, like the 1 billion Hindus of the world, believe there are many gods. They are atheists towards your particular god just as you are towards all of their gods. There are some atheists who believe there may be a god(s) but just don’t believe in any of the ones they have heard about. There are millions of other people, atheists by default, who have never heard about the Christian god or even the Hindu gods so they don’t even know they don’t believe in them.
September 11, 2017 at 12:02 am #4827.
ParticipantGrammatically it means the same fucking thing! Lol…
I know the distinction that is trying to be imposed here…Im just being a smartass.
September 11, 2017 at 12:50 am #4828
Dang MartinParticipantSo how would you say that your belief that Vishnu is not real impacts your life? And how much time would you say that you dedicate to this belief?
Or would you say that you simply don’t believe in Vishnu, and that it hardly ever crossed your mind?
There is a difference.
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September 11, 2017 at 8:33 am #4856
Simon PayntonParticipant“secularism” –
“Secularisation, the argument goes, leaves a vacuum which could be filled by something particularly intolerant: extreme nationalism, perhaps, or radical Islam.”
On the one hand, I think the article’s a little bit daft, hysterical, and intolerant of reasonable religious behaviour which doesn’t actually bother anyone. On the other hand, it makes some good points.
I can only speak about the UK and maybe Western Europe.
I don’t think that Christianity is the enemy of humanism, at all, even if there is a substantial reactionary, regressive element. The humanist element is prominently right there, ready to be deployed.
Frankly, the main real problem in the UK is certain people bending over backwards to appease Muslim restrictions on human rights which are alien to humanism; and smilingly taking the communities at face value when they flatly deny that anything’s wrong. For example, the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn’s disgraceful refusal to admit that there’s a problem with gangs of Pakistani and other Muslim men up and down the country raping, abusing and trafficking vulnerable teenage white girls in their thousands. Apparently, political correctness is more important than addressing mass rape. This is clearly ridiculous, and also, sinister. That’s the point where any remaining respect I had for that idiot evaporated.
We also have the undercover Jihadis like Linda Sarsour, whose job is to stamp on any criticism of Islam, by crying “racism”. Again, the regressive parts of Islamic culture are taken at face value when they claim to be “nice”, when in actual fact they’re lying through their teeth about their real mission: to allow intolerant Islam to flourish within the West, and there’s also a mission statement in existence from the Muslim Brotherhood which talks about exploiting free speech laws in the West in order to attack it from the inside. So that’s all pretty nasty.
We also have the noisy Left dissolving into complete cultural relativism, for some bizarre reasons of their own which speak more to the dark irrational side of human nature than to actually wanting to change things for the better. Accordingly, they just make everything worse, and are a problem for the rest of us.
However, I’d see this situation as more of a potential threat than an actual real take-over of the culture. But a potential threat is still something we need to worry about.
I think the solution has to be to present a robust case for humanism, and to do that, it is necessary to put it on a rigorous philosophical footing. At the moment, everyone seems pretty vague about what it is.
September 11, 2017 at 9:04 am #4860.
Participant@Dang Martin
i know the distinction people try to make of it. My point is there’s a reason you want that distinction to be there isn’t there?
Taking Regs quote and insert the word “fairy”….like so:
“There is a significant difference between having no belief in a fairy and believing there is no fairy…”
The conclusion is the same. Grammatically they mean the same thing.
September 11, 2017 at 9:44 am #4863
Reg the Fronkey FarmerModeratorNo it does not mean the same thing. See if you can work out why. I already explained this to you.
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