jakelafort
@jakelafort
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jakelafort replied to the topic Woke Movies in the forum Small Talk 3 years, 3 months ago
Jeebus, I had no idea the right would be so afraid of melting into non-existence, like, umm, snowflakes.
That is a great line!
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jakelafort replied to the topic Woke Movies in the forum Small Talk 3 years, 3 months ago
https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/265-religion-anti-racism
I’ve linked the above earlier. Worth a listen.
We’ve discussed this topic and it is a mistake to paint wokeism with a broad brush. However the movement is history repeating itself in terms of human nature. It is my contention that any form of ideology is anathema…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Encogitationer, here's your chance to explain it to us. in the forum Politics 3 years, 4 months ago
Enco, phrenology aint all that far off. Recent headlines include size of pupil correlated to fluid intelligence. Also brain shape may be more significant in function than neurons which came as a complete surprise.
so watch out for close beady eyes, high criminal forehead and other telltale indications of character.…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic WTF is going on in France? in the forum Politics 3 years, 4 months ago
Unseen,
It just goes to show you the amusement park and titty bar are more powerful than the crescent and star.
And not only American anti-cult influences and opportunity but also it is likely an easier transition socially to adapt by assimilating when enclaves of Muslims are not as great. I assume the social/cultural pressures to conform are…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic WTF is going on in France? in the forum Politics 3 years, 4 months ago
Even after vetting there is the potential for so called radicalization. That is particularly true if they’re experiencing economic disadvantage and discrimination. Massive numbers of people from a massive cult is not ideal.
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jakelafort replied to the topic WTF is going on in France? in the forum Politics 3 years, 4 months ago
Unseen,
I am pretty sure that if US had opened its arms to the wretched refuse of the Syrian slaughter and other mass exodus’ in a Trump era that it would have been as bad here. We already know how xenophobic the low life rif raf of republicans are. Wave the flag. Genuflect to guns and guard our borders! For fucks sake!
From what i know Germany…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School July 2nd 2023. in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 4 months agoPope,
It is probably a cliche but music is primal. Song, story telling and dance are i would think aspects of every culture and have been for many thousands of years.
And it has a big impact on nonhuman animals too. Not all of em apparently but many of them.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/nine-unexpected-effects-of-music-on-animals/
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jakelafort replied to the topic WTF is going on in France? in the forum Politics 3 years, 4 months ago
Civilization has a problem with Muslims. More generally it has a problem, an intractable problem, with religion. Was it guilt over slavery, imperialism, colonialism that caused Europeans to open their arms and welcome the less fortunate?
As one might have expected the pendulum has swung back towards hatred and xenophobia. Strut and fret hour…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School July 2nd 2023. in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 4 months agoPope,
I was not aware of the lyrics. It is so evocative that i can’t get that far. The imposition of a powerful cult and the resultant devotion is what i feel. But hell i don’t know much about music-just how it strikes me.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School July 2nd 2023. in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 4 months agoEnigma comes across to me as anti-religious. That lovely lady would have been burned at stake back in the day.
As for Charley tuna fish very catchy sound. Be a good one to listen to while high.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School July 2nd 2023. in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 4 months agoI find it disgusting. I know it is a visceral reaction but that piece just oozes religiosity.
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jakelafort posted an update 3 years, 4 months ago
The Gun Runners have been a disappointment. So have the gun lickers who equate unfettered access to all firearms with freedom. We must have a free-for-all and the weak may fall. Strong to the top. Others work till your drop. Limit the government as much as ya can. Privatize all functions. Do you understand? Empower businesses cuz yes they can.…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic end of agnostic.com? in the forum Small Talk 3 years, 4 months ago
The issues of theism are dreadfully boring. After a time it is beating a dead turtle. And once you get through the carapace it is not a pretty site.
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jakelafort replied to the topic end of agnostic.com? in the forum Small Talk 3 years, 4 months ago
What about a quantum god?
Agnosticism is pussy shit.
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jakelafort posted an update 3 years, 4 months ago
Pope Beanie, just read your comments. Was unable to respond in the usual way. It is fine by me if you copy/paste.
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jakelafort posted a new activity comment 3 years, 4 months ago
I assume emotions evolved to enhance survival. But the question of caring whether it lives or dies begs the question as to what are the ingredients to self awareness or consciousness. By feelings i mean sensation and without it i doubt any genesis of consciousness can occur in biology. Whether that is true of AI? No clue. Wouldn’t it be a…[Read more]
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jakelafort posted a new activity comment 3 years, 4 months ago
Simon i think you will be surprised when the story is told. In any event it makes me wonder about consciousness. Biological awareness started with FEELING. Is feeling inextricably linked with consciousness? Obviously it is in biology. Can it arise sans biology as unadulterated thought?
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jakelafort replied to the topic This is not normal in the forum Small Talk 3 years, 4 months ago
Enco i am not gonna waste half an hour to analyze and respond to your ideology. Once again you are on same framework as a pious theist. The truth of the beliefs or precepts underlying your ideology are infallible and that makes you reason in a way that is consistent with the ideology. None of us really capable of objectivity but when you are brain…[Read more]
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jakelafort posted an update 3 years, 4 months ago
Listening to NPR heard a story about the successor to chat GPT. Microsoft’s version-billion invested and an apparent 2001 Space Odyssey leap forward compared to the original language model. If the stories are true it is not just a probability machine. It is reasoning. I won’t bother elaborating in regards to the evidence. I assume this will draw…[Read more]
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I think we’ve had automatic theorem provers for a long time. That’s reasoning that humans have a hard time with. Awareness? Surely it would have to have instruments connecting it to the outside world.
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Simon i think you will be surprised when the story is told. In any event it makes me wonder about consciousness. Biological awareness started with FEELING. Is feeling inextricably linked with consciousness? Obviously it is in biology. Can it arise sans biology as unadulterated thought?
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We could think of feelings or emotions as psychological reactions to threats or opportunities regarding fitness and survival. All the machine has to do is care whether it lives or dies in order to have basic evaluative valence of external stimuli. That’s probably quite easy to program in.
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I assume emotions evolved to enhance survival. But the question of caring whether it lives or dies begs the question as to what are the ingredients to self awareness or consciousness. By feelings i mean sensation and without it i doubt any genesis of consciousness can occur in biology. Whether that is true of AI? No clue. Wouldn’t it be a…
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I think it’s easy enough to simulate emotions with numbers, (just + and -) but the actual feeling of them is something else that requires consciousness as you say. Animals have emotions and even bacteria evaluate the toxicity of their environment and act accordingly. Awareness comes first: then emotions, then rationality is for explaining…
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On bus to SF right now happens to be a service dog nearby, noticing other people and seemingly avoiding eye contact. These (imo) emotion based behaviors always remind me of how deeply in our minds they evolved. And another “feeling moment” now… Just crossed GG bridge.
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I just favorited your comment because it’s worth coming back to if/when I have time. Would you and Simon be ok, btw, if I copy/paste comments here into the Consciousness group? Or can I just link to this thread, which would be my secondary preference?
I believe, going into the future, we MUST design each of our AI creations with a p…
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I’m sorry if you had trouble trying to respond to me. I deleted and re-edited my reply at least four times, it may have messed up other responses.
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That’s fine by me, @popebeanie.
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jakelafort replied to the topic This is not normal in the forum Small Talk 3 years, 4 months ago
Enco, i’ve WANTED to exercise my free will to allow your comments to go unchallenged low these many months until finally the will is nill.
SAYS YOU MISTAH:
There are already laws regulating guns used in the commission of crimes, namely laws against Murder, Felony Murder, Manslaughter, Unjustifiable Homicide, Forcible Rape, Kidnapping, Child…[Read more]
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