Sunday School July 2nd 2023.
July 3, 2023 at 6:36 pm #48990
Maybe the characters in religious text held a rich and imaginative pallet for artist in general. I mean Rafael was commissioned to adorn the Vatican with paintings in a lot of rooms. Michelangelo and the Sistene Chapel.
Listening to the choral piece in that Ninth Symphony (BTW: The first time a choral movement was used in a Symphony, if I’m not mistaken) I always wonder what would his Muse might have been if not religion.
Our daughter is a classically trained operatic singer. She is also an atheist. She had to find common ground between belief and earning a living. Just like the Rafael’s, Michelangelo’s, and Da Vinci’s. Despite all the christian paintings Da Vinci did his magnum opus was The Mona Lisa.
July 3, 2023 at 6:59 pm #48992
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Haha thanks @unseen – I do almost everything on my iPhone – work, personal, etc. and I haven’t made a habit of sending links 🙂July 3, 2023 at 9:15 pm #48995July 3, 2023 at 10:10 pm #48996
Isn’t that beautiful? Thanks for the heads up. Makes you wish that someone would do something like that but instead of god, jesus have them sing about Sunday hot cakes and sausage. Love choral music. Daughter does it here and there, mostly in London.
My introduction to Mozart was by dumpster diving at my place of work. A company in the building, now defunct; Bee Music, threw out a ton of CD’s. I stuck my hand in the dumpster and came away with “Mozart: Complete String Trios & Duos by Gramiuax Trio. My introduction to just how melancholy a cello could be coincided with my clinically diagnosed depression. Love the cello. Read somewhere that the fifth movement in that Ninth Symphony was Beethovan’s way of paying homage to the common folk by introducing the choral piece with cellos.July 3, 2023 at 10:55 pm #48997
I find it disgusting. I know it is a visceral reaction but that piece just oozes religiosity.July 3, 2023 at 11:28 pm #48998July 3, 2023 at 11:32 pm #48999
I went clubbing last Saturday with the girl who taught these guys to play the keyboards 🙂 Sorted!July 4, 2023 at 12:07 am #49000
Enigma comes across to me as anti-religious. That lovely lady would have been burned at stake back in the day.
As for Charley tuna fish very catchy sound. Be a good one to listen to while high.July 4, 2023 at 2:29 am #49001
UnseenParticipantJuly 4, 2023 at 2:30 am #49002
I know it is a visceral reaction but that piece just oozes religiosity.
In the lyrics, of course. But how about in its musical attributes? I think the musical composition and the performance are superb.July 4, 2023 at 4:25 pm #49003
The link did work and your facts about the evacuations are correct, which the John Nettles documentary also confirmed.
That said, I would never want to concede one Square Inch of dirt to a conqueror unless it was as a lure and a trap that eliminated every single one of the conqueror’s minions who came and scared away all the rest.
And if any civilian properties were involved in the trap, I would compensate and arm them well for their cooperation. Maybe the going market rate for deposit and monthly rent, plus a Vulcan Cannon and and all the gun oil, parts, and ammo you can eat.July 4, 2023 at 5:24 pm #49004
I was not aware of the lyrics. It is so evocative that i can’t get that far. The imposition of a powerful cult and the resultant devotion is what i feel. But hell i don’t know much about music-just how it strikes me.July 4, 2023 at 5:25 pm #49005
I agree with you about not conceding the Channel Islands…in an ideal situation.
But committing to defending or retaking them while facing a force that might take over Europe probably made postponing that a no-brainer.
“Win the battle but lose the war” is a formula to be avoided. Until the U.S. joined WW2, the fall of Great Britain was virtually a foregone conclusion. I shudder to think what language would be spoken in GB and maybe even the US had Pearl Harbor not happened.July 4, 2023 at 7:04 pm #49008
The imposition of a powerful cult and the resultant devotion is what i feel. But hell i don’t know much about music-just how it strikes me.
I know the feeling. Especially in a movie soundtrack, sometimes I feel manipulated, even knowing full well that it’s so customary in practically every movie or other drama.
OTOH, as in fictional storytelling with doses of truth, as an alien in outer space studying humans, I’m more interested in the reasons why we’ve evolved to be so affected by music. It’s not just religion that’s hijacked the emotional trajectory in pieces of music and other arts. While the feelings evoked also bring people together in ways other than religious ways.
I’ve somehow avoided emotionally investing in the religious content of music (and some movies), and so on, rather wishing that the power of some religious music could also be present with non-religious motivations. Perhaps most importantly, the obviously powerful feelings evoked in any case are a part of human nature that perhaps we’ll better understand someday, and live with in more positive ways.
While a perfectly valid theme in these discussions, e.g. disgust with humans historically just succumbing to the manipulations and acting like sheep, without thinking. I get goosebumps from a lot of religiously driven music, while not feeling it has anything to do with God (or e.g. Nationalism). I feel lucky that way. 🙂July 4, 2023 at 7:11 pm #49009
It is probably a cliche but music is primal. Song, story telling and dance are i would think aspects of every culture and have been for many thousands of years.
And it has a big impact on nonhuman animals too. Not all of em apparently but many of them.
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