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Strega replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoTruth doesn’t have to be logical and realistic. Fiction does.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months ago“This is shorter: “Truth” is a human concept, otherwise irrelevant in a universe before any consciousness in it has emerged”
That is a variation on the introduction to philosophy tree in the forest quip.
How about some truth quotes?
If you insist.
Truth serves nobody so nobody serves the truth.
Truth is not aesthetic unlike the des…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoUnseen wrote:
The simplest definition of “the truth” is “the truth is that which is the case (whether you know it or not.”Surely it means “that proposition that corresponds with that which is the case” or “that proposition that is consistent with that which is the case”.
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months ago2-2=4 (base 10) was true before the universe came into being and will remain so after the last atom falls apart.
The simplest definition of “the truth” is “the truth is that which is the case (whether you know it or not.”
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoSimon Paynton wrote:
We can’t have truth without a knower.Unseen wrote:
The philosophical question is not about what your life means to you.I hope the following, self-referencing logic doesn’t sound too convoluted.
We could just presume there’s a consciousness or two, e.g. God and/or humans, that know truth. But sans either, before the word “…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoUnseen wrote:
If something is true, it’s true even if no one knows it or will ever know it. If no one had ever discovered the Higgs boson, the thing would still exist.Yes, but is truth the same as existence? Surely truth is a quality of a measurement of existence. This measurement is an accurate representation of existence; or not. This prop…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoSimon Paynton wrote:
Exactly. We can’t have truth without a knower. What is truth without someone to judge it? When I say, I ought to help this old lady across the road, I am saying I feel I ought to do it.If something is true, it’s true even if no one knows it or will ever know it. If no one had ever discovered the Higgs boson, the thin…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoSimon Paynton wrote:
I believe that meaning in life is when things affect my goals, so those things are significant or have meaning for me. I attend to those things that affect my goals and that therefore have meaning to me.The philosophical question is not about what your life means to you.
The meaning of life? What does that mean? The pu…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoPopeBeanie wrote:
We’re just the result of billions of years of accidental survival, and replication, that happen to feel profound. Which I’m happy with.Exactly. We can’t have truth without a knower. What is truth without someone to judge it? When I say, I ought to help this old lady across the road, I am saying I feel I ought to do it.
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoOnly people who get recorded into popular history before they died have meaning, LOL.
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoSimon Paynton wrote:
The meaning of life? What does that mean?I have a kind of dismissive opinion on these questions, although like wrt free will, I just go with my instinct to act in life as though I have it. I definitely feel I have a purpose, and that life has meaning. If those feeling are just delusions or illusions, then they’ve emerged “…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Philosophy was once alive.
This article is super-interesting. If I had to spend my life doing that kind of philosophy, I don’t think I would do it. It would make me feel like shooting myself.
Their whole problem is, with their meaning of life theories, is that they don’t have any idea what they’re talking a…[Read more]
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agounapologetic wrote:
Rethinking Atheism Problem 1: we’re Arrogant Me: So what. You can’t shame me, or gilt trip me out of my position. Problem 2: Myopia. I don’t see the good in ‘faith’. It builds community, promotes pacifism. Me: I see the bad outweighs the good. ‘Faith’ pits believers against other ‘faiths’. Makes them ‘sheep’, subjects… -
Strega replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoThanks Reg!!!
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unapologetic replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoRethinking Atheism
Problem 1: we’re Arrogant
Me: So what. You can’t shame me, or gilt trip me out of my position.Problem 2: Myopia.
I don’t see the good in ‘faith’. It builds community, promotes pacifism.
Me: I see the bad outweighs the good.
‘Faith’ pits believers against other ‘faiths’. Makes them ‘sheep’, subjects of an anti-human despot.…[Read more] -
unapologetic replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoIn the clip of the Oklahoma Schools superintendent. His first mention of the bible, he said “… the (pause) bible …” You could tell he was about to call it ‘The Holy Bible’ and caught himself. 🙂
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoHave a great week!
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer started the topic Sunday School July 7th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoLiars for Jesus deny pushing religion in schools as the bills to enhance religion in schools spur fights between faiths. Is much of this the fault of those Supreme Court justices who are willing to put their own faith above all else even thought The Constitution explicitly implies that thou shalt not require the Ten Commandments to be posted in…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School June 23rd 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months ago@ Robert
It’s not like I never considered or explored the solution you offered.
You still use the window which has to be closed shut. That loses the window as far as I’m concerned. A further complication is that units in my building have windows that swing on side hinges. They don’t slide up and down. So a normal in-window installation is…[Read more]
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School June 23rd 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months ago_Robert_ wrote:
Just search portable air conditioner in Amazon to see them because links don’t work.I have a small apartment with two windows. One I don’t want to give up to an A/C unit for practical reasons and I feed birds at the other one.
They don’t mount to a window. Just roll it near a window when you need them. The vent jus…[Read more]
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