John Phillip
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December 4, 2017 at 12:56 am #6421
John Phillip
ParticipantI will read nothing else from Simon, who has wasted too much of my time already.
“Go from the presence of a foolish man.”
December 3, 2017 at 9:05 pm #6391John Phillip
Participant@john Phillip – but you said, if someone hasn’t got a sword, they need to go and get one by any means necessary. That’s militaristic language, don’t you agree? You’re saying, you have to go and buy a sword. Go and buy a sword. Swords are for killing people. I don’t understand your argument.
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“Go and get one (sword) by any means necessary” is your language, NOT mine, NOT the Bible’s.
You misquote and then misconstrue based on your own misunderstanding. Then you follow up with more insults. How typical. If this forum has an Ignore List, you will be the first one I add to mine.
If it does not, I will endeavor to never read nor respond again to anything you write. You’re not worth five seconds more of my time.
December 3, 2017 at 8:57 pm #6387John Phillip
ParticipantJohn…please understand that an “argument from ignorance” is the classic argument that that says …because we do not know the cause of something that god did. Then re-read your misplaced response.
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No it is not that at all. It is the condescending implication, the pretense, the laughing, guffawing haw haw of “We’re smarter than you so shut the hell up”. Christians cite design, statistics, facts and observations, and the common response is “the argument from incredulity” or in other words, you don’t understand it, you’re ignorant, you lose, we know it all.
SCIENTISTS are incredulous at discoveries, and always have been, before, during, and after their discoveries. They are HARDLY guilty of the argument from incredulity, at which you and your fellow misspelling “brights” can giggle and point.
December 3, 2017 at 8:53 pm #6385John Phillip
Participant@john Phillip – “Let him who hath no sword sell his garment and buy one.” – what’s that now? Terrorism? I thought you were all about turning swords into plough (sic) (plow) shares. Just sayin’ (very ignorantly).
Swords are used for fighting, not “ploughing.” I have exchanged numerous emails with the infamous Richard Dawkins over the onslaught of errors and ignorance in his books. I’m quite accustomed to fighting with atheists, only to watch as you stumble and make fools of yourselves, all the while pretending to be as you claim, “brights.” Not so much. Like you, Dawkins trips and stumbles and in the end, simply blathers out his own intellectualism, rather than really proving it. He botches even simple statistics.
December 3, 2017 at 8:47 pm #6383John Phillip
Participant@johnphillip – I do agree that Richard Dawkins pretty much talks junk on the subject of religion. “You won’t be so smartass when you face the Maker of Heaven and Earth.” – have you heard this saying? “You can tell the size of a man by the size of the thing that makes him mad.” – Adlai Stevenson II (1900-1965) In other words, it’s not plausible that God would give a flying f*** that Strega said that. I’m pretty sure He would be able to rise above it; in fact, it would probably make Him chuckle.
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Have you heard this saying, “Be still and know that I am God.”?
Mankind’s greatest obligation is to worship God, our Maker. Mocking and ridiculing our Maker, along with all who do worship Him will hardly make anyone except you “brights” “chuckle.” I don’t think you even chuckle at your venerable moderator’s pathetic spelling.
December 3, 2017 at 8:39 pm #6381John Phillip
ParticipantThe same Professor John Lennox, who in a debate with Dawkins makes the argument from ignorance and personal credulity over and over? No thanks. 10 seconds listening to that guy is 10 seconds wasted.
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Professor Lennox is anything but ignorant. You spend time reading the comments of atheists and speak of time “wasted”??
December 3, 2017 at 8:38 pm #6380John Phillip
Participant@johnphillip May I point out to you that joining an Atheist forum and asking/telling us/me that I will be sorry when I bump into your mighty creator vassilates (sic) (vacillates) (So much for you being so very “bright”.) between a child running up and ringing a doorbell as a prank, and an act of aggression against people not of your faith. (However it is profoundly giggly and amusing for you to invoke tame unicorns and such, and then laugh derisively. What daunting hypocrisy you possess.) Neither is particularly becoming for an adult (which I’m still assuming you are). Does your church teach you to do this? Does your version of Jesus encourage you in this respect? Is it all ‘neener neener’ stuff that makes you feel closer to your deity? Im (sic) sorry I was late responding to you, but I was out delivering warm clothes from my closet to the homeless in my area. Not because I think it will buy me a stairway to heaven, simply because it’s the sort of thing decent people do, irrespective of what spirituality they follow. Perhaps you could try to redirect some of your energy to doing something a little more practical than throwing Jesus threats at people who bracket him in the same cluster as Santa and the Easter Bunny. Actually, the latter two are better role models, but that’s neither here nor there. I do not attend people’s churches so I can stand up and denigrate their business. I make my atheist comments here on an atheist forum. Please try to include a little courtesy when you are visiting a place that does not conform to your own beliefs.
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I will accord you all the “courtesy” you do to Christians as you giggle away with “tame unicorns” and the like. tee hee.
“Let him who hath no sword sell his garment and buy one.” Don’t preach Christianity to me.
December 3, 2017 at 8:13 pm #6371John Phillip
ParticipantHi John, What facts do we atheists reject? Please don’t just make sweeping statements like most Christians do. You do not seem to understand Evolution either. Support what you say with evidence.
Fact: Science and Christianity are NOT incompatible. The sweeping statement to the contrary, made by the overwhelming majority of atheists is unsupportable.
Fact: You atheists always claim that anyone deigning to challenge a 160-year-old hypothesis, which has been the subject of so very many fabrications and lies, “doesn’t understand it” and “is stupid” . Your blanket statements are unsupportable and condescending.
Fact: Christians are happier and give more to charities, religious and secular, give more to family and friends, donate more of their own time, and give more blood than atheists and Leftists do. For this we are maligned by the claim “ignorance is bliss,” which further implies that “brights” are exceptionally smart and the rest of the world is terminally stupid.
This is part of a list which is a long one that has been repeated ad nauseum by atheists.
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December 3, 2017 at 7:31 pm #6367John Phillip
ParticipantWow Belle, that’s incredible. All you have to do is provide a convincing argument (probably including evidence) and you’ll make a lot of us believers overnight!
No, Matt, nobody can “make a lot of (you) believers overnight!” because you reject anything contrary to your magical fantasies, viz. that nothing made everything and you are wise because you believe as much.
Atheist arguments are shallow and ignorant. They have been repeated and giggled at by you and your friends ad nauseum, and nothing ever changes. Atheists pretend to be smarter, and tell everyone so.
Atheists reject facts and give plausible but shallow reasons for rejecting facts and science. This began with the Darwinian pretense that all animals “evolved” from one common ancestor. So what need for God, eh? How scientifically convenient. Except that Darwinian evolution is a hoax in search of evidence and it opened the doors to atheism on a large and pseudo-scientific scale.
Now we have physicists seriously stating that there is an infinite number of universes, and expecting gullible followers to swallow it. Meanwhile we don’t know everything about anything and all the additional science research only serves to push the horizons further back. This is not the argument from incredulity, but rather the persistent observation from scientists.
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December 3, 2017 at 7:21 pm #6366John Phillip
ParticipantIf it were all true, I would gallop away on my tame unicorn and go live with the Fronkeys in Reg’s back yard. We would feast on rainbow loaves and cuddle with the flying elephants that visited.
It’s all giggles and condescension here on earth, isn’t it Strega. You won’t be so smartass when you face the Maker of Heaven and Earth. Design is ubiquitous, and atheists have the supreme, indeed infinite fantasy that everything made itself out of nothing. Stephen Hawking insists “all you need to get started is gravity.” Really? Is that “all”? And whence came gravity, with its astonishing precision?
I suggest you all watch an hour or two of lectures by Professor John Lennox of Oxford University, where he addresses the correspondence between science and the Holy Bible, and the absurd arguments made by Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, and all the rest of the “ha ha” crowd, “I’m galloping away on my tame unicorn.”
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