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  • #40142

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    It is not easy for Christians to have their faith shaken when their God is never blamed for anything.

    That would be fine except gawd seems to get credit for all things good.

    #40092

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    I have always thought that interstellar travel as some sort of mitigation for the environmental destruction of the Earth is a feeble long shot at best. Even the South Pole is orders of magnitude more livable than anything we know about in space. The ethics of generational concerns gets really interesting considering we don’t even know enough about the effects of galactic radiation on our bodies to say if long term space travel is feasible.

     

    #40075

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    Believers don’t care about the truth. And secular humanism as a concept is a relative newborn when considering religions have had thousands of years to prove their value. And they just arbitrarily get decide which causes will benefit versus a logical broad societal approach. More like Oprah giving away cars than anything.

    Atheism has no real meaning as it relies on the fantasies to itself exist. Humanism would be the preferred label IMHO.

    #40073

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    LOL, yeah, that kid who breaks the bad news about Santa Claus.

    #40070

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    I have seen studies and polls that suggest many top scientists creating value in medicine and the various technologies (that could possibly save our species) are atheists. They may not even care enough about religion (or nonbelief) to work under that banner. Conversely many believers are prone to or espouse pseudoscience….and are generally useless or harmful.

    #40058

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    What Michael and his ilk always leave out is the vast time scales over which evolution happens. A time scale so vast that it allows for some seemingly unlikely things to happen simply coincidentally. Of course, if he believes the earth is only 4,000 years old…

    Adults actually go to Ken Ham’s Ark-shaped facade in a parking lot and pay money to look at stuffed dinosaurs in cages and leave thinking they just visited a museum. Those two kangaroos and had a long swim. And it took those poor sloths about 300 years to walk home.

    #40041

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    Natural selection over millions of years? You need nano machinery working day one in a cell. And it must be engineered and govern by feedback control.

    Right…! nano machinery, of course! The illuminati have a secret lab behind that pizza place.

    #40033

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    Scientist are already in a quandary as to the origin of the first DNA molecule since it is impossible to occur naturally…. This is completely untrue.

    The synthesis of DNA building blocks from RNA precursors is a major argument in favor of RNA preceding DNA in evolution. The direct prebiotic origin of is theoretically plausible (from acetaldehyde and glyceraldehyde-5-phosphate) but highly unlikely, considering that evolution, as stated by F. Jacob, works like a tinkerer, not an engineer.-https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/#!po=0.537634

    I would agree with that scientist’s analogy to explain natural selection over millions of years, a length of time beyond most people’s comprehension. Natural selection is one component of evolution and just as a tinkerer tries things without thought or research; natural selection “tinkers” because there is a slight chance a mindless mutation may be beneficial.

    Now if you are implying that because we do not understand the origins of DNA 100% yet that god created it by tinkering because a scientist used an analogy, well you have some issues. So much for omniscience. This god of the gaps is a pretty tired line of illogical “thinking”, ya know? From what I read in the bible, the so-called son of god didn’t even know about microbes, telling his followers not to wash their hands before eating. Leprosy is caused by demons, LOL. Thousands of evangelicals are taking that Covid induced dirt nap early, thanks to this mythology.

    #40022

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    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8G9AjMK/ Scientist are already in a quandary as to the origen of the first DNA molecule since it is impossible to occur naturally. Now you have complex nano machines with strategically placed scaffolding operating in all cells.

    Of course, you have embraced the Qanon cult with your Tiktoc ‘research’. I would expect nothing less, LOL.

    #40005

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    That’s the answer to a problem that wasn’t asked, that being can you have an ethical system without absolutes? Implicit is the position you’re taking is that there aren’t or can’t be ethical absolutes but you offer no evidence much less proof.

    I answered this question already…the only duty close to anything absolute is to survive and reproduce. The social contract is the mechanism to enhance survival. Thought you could connect the dots. Everything else ethics-wise is relative to the your and your group’s survival. Including dropping atomic weapons on enemy woman and children.

    #39998

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    The social contract? Is it an absolute? No. It is a construct. Are ethical precepts or rules absolute? Is there some ethereal zone in which one can find such? Of course not. It is just the application of reason to abstract concepts. However, the conclusion i’ve reached does not invalidate ethical precepts. It simply is a matter of forming ethical precepts based on reason, unavoidably influenced by contemporary thought and cultural mores.

    This is the answer. We punish those who break that unwritten social contract. Military deserters are called cowards and worse. The morality for a soldier ant is to do his “duty” to protect the queen who in turn has all the reproductive “duties”. And all without an “ant god”. Socialized insects dominate the planet in some ways. Their social contract is more rigid than ours and they don’t get to muse about “divine morality”.

    #39987

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    I think I’ll watch some TV…OK let’s see…ancient aliens, finding big foot, the trinity broadcasting service, secrets of the bible, the history of the illuminati, or Tucker Carlson. Think I’ll read a bit, LOL.

    #39985

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    Since biblical interpretation has proven to be incredibly subjective (thus the many sects), then “biblical morality” must also be; case closed.

    #39981

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    WLC hangs his hat on the spurious errr BS notion that morality is only possible if it is handed down by the Christian God. Well whodafuq died and made God the boss of me? The authority vested in their imaginary benefactor suggests a power structure but not right from wrong. Giving in to that BS is for the simple minded religiously inclined mindless muthafuckas. That is just me. I am a little overreactive with this. Determining right from wrong requires the exercise of judgment not the surrender of our minds to infantilism.

    It’s not just you. WLC has had his ass handed to him so many times, I hope he doesn’t instruct any debate classes.

    #39966

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    Our millions and millions of years of development are only about eating other living things and not getting eaten yourself to enable reproduction. Suddenly some monkey-like creatures discovered the universe didn’t really care for all that and wants you to be “good”. Fucking nonsense.

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