Simon Paynton
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum
To Do or not To Do 2 years, 12 months agoIn my version of evolutionary ethics, ghosting would come under the category of “unnecessary harm”. Most of the time, people could take the time to let someone down gently and using words rather than ghosting. So they don’t need to be causing this harm by ghosting. They are able to give benefit rather than harm, and what’s more, they have a re…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School November 5th 2023. in the forum
Sunday School 3 years agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Philosophers have always been concerned with the question of how best to philosophize.Is philosophy really too specialised? I see mathematics, science and philosophy as three parts of the same thing – the systematic search for knowledge. We would’t say that mathematics and science are too academic and s…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School October 22nd 2023. in the forum
Sunday School 3 years ago“Wrestling with moral relativism.”
I think the author has it a little bit wrong about progressives.
One side of the argument celebrates cultural diversity and unites this with an emphasis on the socially constructed nature of values. This is the outlook popularly associated with postmodernism, identity politics, and the rejection of universalist…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Victim’s Remorse? Or something else? in the forum Advice 3 years ago
Here is a slightly different kind of trauma therapy – Gestalt Therapy.
It is recommended by a psychotherapist from New York I respect and have had beneficial dealings with: Dr Elinor Greenberg.
Dr Greenberg writes a column on Quora called Bits of Wisdom. If you contact her via quora.com, or e-mail, I am sure she would love to help you out with…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Conjecture: Intelligent technological life requires a skeleton in the forum Science 3 years, 1 month ago
Autumn wrote:
But if the means of doing this are adequate for their needs there may be no pressure for them to adopt more complex behaviours (e.g. making more sophisticated tools or cultivating termites). This is one facet of human behaviour that is a bit difficult to explain.I think that what is adequate for their needs is the level of…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Holy F*cking F*ck F*ck F*ck. We are screwed!!! in the forum Politics 3 years, 1 month ago
Autumn wrote:
But in this case I think it’s an issue of why people flip.Good point. It’s like choosing to be either sane or insane.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Holy F*cking F*ck F*ck F*ck. We are screwed!!! in the forum Politics 3 years, 1 month ago
Autumn wrote:
Some might consider it odd that if someone doesn’t like the rain that they’d vote for the hurricane to get out of it. I can understand why many are apathetic, disenchanted with, or disapproving of Biden and the contemporary Democratic party,I think a big part of it is tribalism, one group versus another. It appears to me that Repu…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Victim’s Remorse? Or something else? in the forum Advice 3 years, 1 month ago
You have to protect yourself.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 17th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agoFollowing the verdict, the lawyer who headed the effort trumpeted his victory: “Freedom wins again,” he tweeted. But freedom to what? Freedom to suffer from preventable illnesses. Or to be hospitalized. Or to die. Or to transmit viruses to those who cannot be successfully vaccinated.
This is true. It’s the freedom to drown in bullshit. But freed…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 17th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
World of Woo: A study into ‘truth relativism’.I think it’s really interesting.
People who believe the truth is subjective and individual are more likely to believe conspiracy theories, and to hold onto their conspiratorial beliefs even when faced with real-world evidence and facts that contradict their con…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agojakelafort wrote:
As one might expect it is not required of a plaintiff to demonstrate the PARTICULAR harm resulting from the negligence, only that some harm of that nature might ensue.In other words, that they were acting recklessly without due regard to the right thing to do.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agoDavis wrote:
No you cannot know what consequences are going to be. You can assume and/or predict but you cannot know. That is an essential motivation for taking deontological ethics seriously.This is true. All we have are: 1) the (joint) goal; 2) tried and trusted methods designed to achieve it. So it is reasonable to rely on the methods, b…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agoUnseen wrote:
Narcissism is built on a moral system which asks things like How does this affect me? or Does doing this give my enemy an advantage?I think narcissism is amoral – competitive – seeking “my” benefit – rather than moral – cooperative – seeking “our” benefit.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agoDavis wrote:
I think that all moral systems deal with actions and consequences.We can’t know what consequences are going to be, so we can only act with goals in mind. Moral principles, right actions, are designed to bring about these goals (i.e., mutual benefit). So, they’re good in themselves.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agoIf I am correct, then deontology and virtue ethics deal with the right (actions) while consequentialism deals with the good (desired consequences). Both are important in my opinion, and they’re not separate.
What makes a good ethical system? One that accurately reflects reality (nature), or one that can tell us what to do? Or both?
The et…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 1 month agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
Deontological theories of ethics such as Kant’s never satisfied me. After all, humans are beings in a Natural Universe with Cause and Effect and are living beings whose acts have consequences and who act upon potential gains and harms to their own life and flourishing and that of others. It is ridiculous to insist that h… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 2 months agoUnseen wrote:
we should be concerned about acting rationally and in accordance with duty to moral principles.Think about it: It also presupposes a preexisting moral sense.
Kant’s rational moral principles are his Categorical Imperatives. I think he presupposes desirable goals or goods.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 2 months agoBut according to Kant, moral decisions are rational based on the principle of universalisation. If this provides a world where the maxim is possible without the world breaking down in some way – it’s a good decision.
I think it’s intended that if universalisation leads to a contradiction, it’s a rational-morally false move.
However, I see what…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 2 months agoUnseen wrote:
While Immanuel Kant’s Categorical Imperative is a powerful and influential ethical framework, some critics have pointed out potential challenges and situations where its application can lead to what may seem like absurd or counterintuitive conclusions.It’s an example of something that is logical but not accurate. It doesn’t ma…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School September 10th 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 3 years, 2 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Kant’s Categorical Imperative.This is a good article explaining Kant’s Categorical Imperative for a beginner (like me).
When we are trying to decide what the morally right thing to do is, what should we take into account? Is it the consequences of the action that matter the most? Or, is it the intentions of the…
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