Simon Paynton
@simonpaynton
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Are right and wrong and the related duties possible without absolutes in the forum Small Talk 4 years, 12 months ago
Unseen wrote:
So, are duties awful, useless, toxic, dangerous, harmful, and garbage?A duty is ideal performance that we owe to others and ourselves – in other words, to “us”. Morality is a shared social enterprise, so necessarily, it is absolutely true that morality involves duties. A duty has a three-fold structure I believe: 1) the need f…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 14th November 2021. in the forum
Sunday School 4 years, 12 months ago@jakelafort – I agree that it’s been used as a horrendous tool of oppression, but it remains psychologically valid. We’re all prone to mess up sometimes, for similar reasons.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Are right and wrong and the related duties possible without absolutes in the forum Small Talk 4 years, 12 months ago
I agree that it’s situational, but it has, surely, to have some kind of absolute authority.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Are right and wrong and the related duties possible without absolutes in the forum Small Talk 4 years, 12 months ago
You would think that morality has to be grounded in the “absolute”, otherwise it doesn’t carry any weight. But what absolute? Facts? Values? It can be grounded in the fact of cooperation, or of sexuality and pair-bonding. It helps us negotiate those things successfully.
Religions ground their morality in an absolute giver of absolute laws.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Are right and wrong and the related duties possible without absolutes in the forum Small Talk 4 years, 12 months ago
Ivy wrote:
anyone not looking at the world with that same sense of morality is wrong.Yes, I think people are often very parochial when it comes to talking about morality. All they know, is their own one. But there is a plurality of morality all over the world. In “The Social Instinct”, Nichola Raihani talks about how in Eastern, co…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Are right and wrong and the related duties possible without absolutes in the forum Small Talk 4 years, 12 months ago
I think it’s possible to construct an ethical system on what humans find normative – these things are treated as absolute. Compassion, fairness, conforming to ideal standards are all evolutionarily necessary to the individual. But that pushes the motivation back to what is necessary for the individual. However, we don’t live as individuals, we…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 14th November 2021. in the forum
Sunday School 4 years, 12 months agoUnseen wrote:
I can’t imagine how one constructs an ethical system on less than an absolute or the absolute. How would it not be a system based merely on attitudes and/or opinions?You’re probably right. Anything else has wiggle-room. A slave says, “I absolutely do not want to be a slave”. It’s like Michael Shermer says, there is a “who says…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 14th November 2021. in the forum
Sunday School 4 years, 12 months agoI don’t think it’s all that perfidious, or sinister. I know it can be used as a powerful weapon in the wrong hands, but that doesn’t take away from its psychological and moral validity.
jakelafort wrote:
it is depraved giving responsibility to future generations for the act in the Garden.But this is just the myth or story (which happens to…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 14th November 2021. in the forum
Sunday School 4 years, 12 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
The problem with religions, including Buddhism, is that they all consider human beings to be flawed from the outset. That is vulgar.To be fair – we are all able to mess up, at any time: our selfish, blind and thoughtless natures lead us to do it every so often, with the best will in the world. So that’s what I…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 14th November 2021. in the forum
Sunday School 4 years, 12 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
The value of Philosophy to us all.I think philosophy is useful to us all, because it’s reasoning about real life. Whatever form it comes in, that’s what it’s doing. We all need to treat real life like a scientific topic. Any form of reasoning about real life is philosophy.
Even religion contains philosophy, in…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years ago
Thank you.
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Simon Paynton posted an update 5 years ago
A big thanks to Atheist Zone for helping me write my book. Half of my best material came from Sunday School, and various members contributed some good ideas. I’ve put it on academia.edu now and I’m contacting academics to tell them about it. But they don’t say a lot in return, lol. Frans de Waal said he would have a look.
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Congrats Simon
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 1 month ago
True that.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 19th September 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 1 month agoI adore those American country songs.
@robert, if you’re planning to go to Ireland, make sure to bring plenty of money. Small population, high GDP. A single shot of 12-year old Redbreast is 10 euros.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 19th September 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 1 month agoI’m a fan of 15 year old Johnny Walker. 15 year old hooch sounds interesting.
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Simon Paynton posted an update in the group
The Atheist Agora 5 years, 1 month agoFrom academia.edu: A Companion to Analytic Philosophy .pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zegqb5t1aqkx8j9/A_Companion_to_Analytic_Philosophy.pdf?dl=0
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic How real is death? in the forum Science 5 years, 2 months ago
Quite possibly, the octopus dies because it has reproduced, and is no longer needed. I heard in the Nichola Raihani vs. Michael Shermer podcast in this week’s Sunday School, that there is an evolutionary reason why human grandmothers survive past reproductive age. They are helping their grandchildren to survive by helping to look after them, s…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Is consciousness biological? in the forum Science 5 years, 2 months ago
Davis wrote:
The advantage of having a critical mind is the ability to develop either overarching theories or principles that help dictate rules, some of them more flexible than others (utilitarian for that matter).It’s interesting you should mention utilitarianism. The pressure to thrive + a prosocial attitude leads to a version of…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Is consciousness biological? in the forum Science 5 years, 2 months ago
In morality, a norm is something that people think is good, rather than something which is normal. I can think of some norms that are hard to account for, like the norm against homosexuality. I think this has to do with two things: 1) the sacredness of the male-female pair bond for the purpose of reproduction (“no sex outside marriage”); and 2…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Why is there no philosophy forum? in the forum Advice 5 years, 2 months ago
_Robert_ wrote:
I think your “philosophy” should be flexible and it is beneficial to be able evolve to fit the changing environment.I definitely think that philosophers should be flexible enough to listen to new facts that come along, and to change their philosophy if necessary.
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