Is there evidence that new races of man appeared coinceding with biblical Adam?

[michael17Participant]

Even as a Christian I find Churches false. Which is not a judgement on the congregations but the leadership. There are sincerely  thirsty people out there but that leadership is destitute concerning the power of God. We don’t need a cacophony of doctrine nor false miracles from   TV evangelist. We need the real McCoy, the full Monte.

I believe the Truth has been martyred from the face of the earth by parochial authorities.

Is the remnant hiding in the wilderness from the face of the dragon (Rome) and shall begin their testimonies in the future? Well that’s our only hope.

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[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Michael, is that because you have a personal relationship with Jesus? You cut out the middleman (e.g. the priests or Church)?

[NoelParticipant]

@strega: that’s hysterical! Atheists screwing around with other Atheists and Theist no less.

Reminded of an incident Robert Redford related about his friend Paul Newman. Knowing that Newman enjoyed auto racing and fast cars he hired a tow company to deliver a Porsche to Newman’s driveway. It was beat up and couldn’t possibly start up with chipping paint and corrosion. Newman signed for it and went back in the house. A week went by and there the Porsh sat.

Two weeks later Redford gets a knock on his door. Delivery from Paul Newman. He signs for it and the driver cranes the crate onto his driveway. Grabs a crowbar and uncreated the Porsche. Compacted into a neat little square.

[michael17Participant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Michael, is that because you have a personal relationship with Jesus? You cut out the middleman (e.g. the priests or Church)?

I am not born again. And I don’t believe anyone that says they are.  My relationship is more mundane like      in the book of Job.

Keep your life and mind clean, be charitable  and your life will be blessed and stand clear of falsehood. I do want the new birth but I’m afraid   nowadays it’s almost impossible without finding the living oracles of God. If you have been watching ‘The Curse of Oak Island’ they are digging for Crusader treasure and possibly the ark of the covenant. I’m digging for the same thing so to speak but the living. ark of the covenant who appear to be in hiding and these signs go with them, they heal the sick, cleanse the leprer and raise the dead. Without these signs from the first Century, we are without the body of Christ.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Michael,  you do realize how delusional you come off?

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

So is Biblical Aram more important to you than Biblical Adam? I am friends with an atheist from Uzbekistan and we have talked about going there for a visit but I am more keen on a visit to Syria at some point.

[DavisModerator]

michael17 wrote:

I don’t believe anyone that says they are.

Why would you doubt someone who was indoctrinated into a religious cult, slowly came to their senses and drifted away from it (or cast it a way) and then find themselves drawn back to it (even possibly more devout than before). This happens every day. If they say they are born again, they probably are. I don’t think them drifting way makes them a false-atheist or false-irreligious. Atheists simply lack a belief in God. The excuse is that “this person never really left the faith..” is a bad one. People believe in something, lose that belief and then get it back with every aspect of their life from political ideologies to a personal taste in design/style and the best approach to raising children (for example). The God belief (and lack of it) is no different.

My relationship is more mundane

It’s kind of hard to tell the difference here between nihilistic existentialism and your resigned and meh attitude with your world view. Is it good to have a mundane relationship with your creator?

Keep your life and mind clean, be charitable and your life will be blessed

This is rational and logical stuff that is the final judgement of just about any ethical system (minus the blessed part).

living oracles of God

Yikes.

they heal the sick, cleanse the leprer and raise the dead

Could you give a concrete example of this?

[michael17Participant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

So is Biblical Aram more important to you than Biblical Adam? I am friends with an atheist from Uzbekistan and we have talked about going there for a visit but I am more keen on a visit to Syria at some point.

Aram is associated with Syria. However I have not   ascribed any particular importance to Aram. Syria itself  eventually was apart of the Ptolemy Empire.

 

[michael17Participant]

living oracles of God

Yikes.

they heal the sick, cleanse the leprer and raise the dead

Could you give a concrete example of this?

Christianity must put up or shut up.  Without the day to day events descibed in the Book of acts continuing in the present no church has any legitimacy.

The only excuse that I accept is the “body” has suffered almost complete martyrdom under parochial authorities.

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[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

 

Was Job not the son of Aram? It was thought that Uz was the “Uz” as in Uzbekistan. However, I do suspect Syria is a better option, though I am not sure if it is known exactly where it was.

I know many “Born Again” Christians. I find them to be very decent and moral people. Whenever I help any of them or JW’s (especially the JW’s) to see reason and “lose their faith”, I am always told that they “were never real Christians” in the first place.

I was once told this by a woman who was converted to Christianity by the very person she was claiming was never a true believer in the first place. Not long after I brought that fact to her attention she too became an atheist 🙂

[michael17Participant]

 

 

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Was Job not the son of Aram? It was thought that Uz was the “Uz” as in Uzbekistan. However, I do suspect Syria is a better option, though I am not sure if it is known exactly where it was. I know many “Born Again” Christians. I find them to be very decent and moral people. Whenever I help any of them or JW’s (especially the JW’s) to see reason and “lose their faith”, I am always told that they “were never real Christians” in the first place. I was once told this by a woman who was converted to Christianity by the very person she was claiming was never a true believer in the first place. Not long after I brought that fact to her attention she too became an atheist 🙂

 

 

 

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Reg I slept that one. Your question was so obvious and I do my village idiot act 😀.

I find the son of Aram a good role model short of the rebirth of which I don’t have.

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[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

None of us get reborn. We live a few years and then return to the state we were before we lived.

[michael17Participant]

Talking of the rebirth, I would love to see simple swearing and cussing fisher folk turn into brilliant elloquent miracle bearers overnight.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

They cussed and swore so much because they were terrible fisher folk. I read once that they had to be told what side of the boat to throw their nets from. I wonder if the carpenters back then would think an allen key to be the work of the devil??

[StregaModerator]

michael17 wrote:

Talking of the rebirth, I would love to see simple swearing and cussing fisher folk turn into brilliant elloquent miracle bearers overnight.

I have seen it go the other way in the pub in my youth

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