Is there evidence that new races of man appeared coinceding with biblical Adam?

[michael17]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

In this case no emperors’ clothes are needed because there is no emperor to wear them. I boldly make that claim. 🙂

And there is no evidence to convince you otherwise at this time. But Reg, I have been canvassing the planet for forty year and you will be one of the first to know. 🙂

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

I agree as nobody of any faith has ever been able to furnish me with an iota of evidence. I will however be delighted to review any you find and if it is “evidence” I will immediately forsake atheism and become a believer.

What signs, wonders or miracles have you found over the last 40 years to make you think your quest is still a worthwhile one? (2 Cor. 12:12)

Do you consider speaking in tongues or prophesy to be spiritual gifts? (as in 1 Cor. 14).

[michael17]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

I agree as nobody of any faith has ever been able to furnish me with an iota of evidence. I will however be delighted to review any you find and if it is “evidence” I will immediately forsake atheism and become a believer. What signs, wonders or miracles have you found over the last 40 years to make you think your quest is still a worthwhile one? (2 Cor. 12:12) Do you consider speaking in tongues or prophesy to be spiritual gifts? (as in 1 Cor. 14).

I believe the testimony of the prophets.  Also, I support it with  40 years of research. I have been able to extrapolate history in to the future since the late seventies. I have posted my extrapolations into the future on the old site.

prophecy and speaking in a known language foreign to you do qualify as spiritual gifts. but the deceivers are out there also. As such It would fall short of being the litmus test for the Church.

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[Davis]

That is still a long string of words…which do not remotely answer my question. I’ll put it as clearly as I can:

I need a CONCRETE EXAMPLE. Not an explanation, not an anlysis. Give me the NAME and TIME of a specific person who was raised from the dead BECAUSE of the ARC.

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

Michael17 –  I asked “What signs, wonders or miracles have you found over the last 40 years to make you think your quest is still a worthwhile one?”

That is my specific question.

[michael17]

Davis wrote:

That is still a long string of words…which do not remotely answer my question. I’ll put it as clearly as I can: I need a CONCRETE EXAMPLE. Not an explanation, not an anlysis. Give me the NAME and TIME of a specific person who was raised from the dead BECAUSE of the ARC.

 The recorded accounts from the canon are 10 in all.

names and times are whatever is revealed in the passages in the following link:

https://www.gotquestions.org/raised-from-the-dead.html

As for as extra-canon sources, I don’t think the so called Apostolic fathers record anything (Polycarp etc.) and Eucebius and Tactitus are mute.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 1 month ago by michael17.

[Davis]

Michael I asked you to give me specifics, not a link. Name, place and date. As I expected you didn’t deliver. I looked at that page and lo and behold…you’ve wasted my time. I read the link you referenced and NONE of those mentioned the arc of the covenant. I could not have been more clear. I never asked for a list of those raised from the dead. I asked you to be specific. You made a claim that the arc of the covenant can raise the dead. Where is your proof? Michael…please…give me a specific name, a specific place (if possible) and a specific time (approximate if necessary) of someone raised from the dead by the arc of the covenant. Please, no links, no vague replies, no misdirects, no ducking-and-dodging. Name, place, date.

[_Robert_]

Being raised from the dead makes no sense for people who believe in heaven. The authors of the bible obviously don’t believe their own bullshit or they wouldn’t consider being raised from the dead some sort of prize. And so what…these zombie people went on to die of some other causes later. It’s moronic.

If the Bible said one thing that the authors of that time could not have imagined, well then it would be worth a read.

[Old Account]

I’m just following this in the sidebar, and have not read most of the text.  Skimming, I don’t see that “the races of man” are defined.    Maybe they were.  Since it’s the title, what do we mean by “Race”.  There are many ways to categorize ethnicity.  The old Black White Asian categories are way off base, and leave out categories of people that are just as different from the “big three” as they are from each other.  Then, the “Asian” category is just stupid.  East Indian vs. Chinese vs. Philipino vs. Cambodian (Eastern Russian is also Asian).  Then there’s Native American and Australian natives, and Melanesians and Polynesians.  All very different.

So if we are going to say that “the races of man” had a particular origin, then we need a definition of “the races of man”.

I thought this brief video is a nice summary.

 

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[michael17]

Davis wrote:

Michael I asked you to give me specifics, not a link. Name, place and date. As I expected you didn’t deliver. I looked at that page and lo and behold…you’ve wasted my time. I read the link you referenced and NONE of those mentioned the arc of the covenant. I could not have been more clear. I never asked for a list of those raised from the dead. I asked you to be specific. You made a claim that the arc of the covenant can raise the dead. Where is your proof? Michael…please…give me a specific name, a specific place (if possible) and a specific time (approximate if necessary) of someone raised from the dead by the arc of the covenant. Please, no links, no vague replies, no misdirects, no ducking-and-dodging. Name, place, date.

I apologize, I’m using Ark of the Covenant as a metaphor for the body of Christ. But in fact the body of Christ is the living Ark of the covenant. It is the perfection of the Old Testament shadow. I have a handle on how the Old Testament foreshadowed the things of the new. The book of Hebrews is a good place to start to learn symbology old to new.

[michael17]

@ Davis

As an example the presence of God abides on/ in both. Both are oracles of God. Tablets written by the finger of God are contained in the Ark where as the living Word is in the body of Christ.

• This reply was modified 8 years, 1 month ago by michael17.

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

Michael that makes no sense. Can you address my earlier question please:

What signs, wonders or miracles have you found over the last 40 years to make you think your quest is still a worthwhile one?

[michael17]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Michael that makes no sense. Can you address my earlier question please: What signs, wonders or miracles have you found over the last 40 years to make you think your quest is still a worthwhile one?

Hmm…thought I replied to that.

Did you read my March 9 reply to that question?

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

I read your reply Michael but it was not answering what I asked.

Again, my question was;

What signs, wonders or miracles have you found over the last 40 years to make you think your quest is still a worthwhile one?

You began by saying that you believe the testimony of the prophets. That is an objective faith based claim.

You then said that after 40 years of research that you “have been able to extrapolate history in to the future”. So you are a prophet too??

I used to work in a university extrapolating economic data in order to predict future economic trends (Yes, it was just as exciting as you think it was :-)). Our short term forecasts (3-6 months) were very accurate but even working with 3 professors of economics and several PhD students we only got it “right” about 70% of the time in the long run. And that all happened before the Internet and the Information age. How good have your predictions been Michael? Is they any way we can test them?

So back to my question above…..telling me you believe parts of the Bible to be true and telling me you have predicted the future does not work as a satisfactory answer.

You are suggesting that the dead come back to life. I am asking what evidence you have found to support that, not what beliefs you hold about it or what you think those beliefs mean.

[michael17]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

I read your reply Michael but it was not answering what I asked. Again, my question was; What signs, wonders or miracles have you found over the last 40 years to make you think your quest is still a worthwhile one? You began by saying that you believe the testimony of the prophets. That is an objective faith based claim. You then said that after 40 years of research that you “have been able to extrapolate history in to the future”. So you are a prophet too??

-No just a person that connects the dots

I used to work in a university extrapolating economic data in order to predict future economic trends (Yes, it was just as exciting as you think it was :-)). Our short term forecasts (3-6 months) were very accurate but even working with 3 professors of economics and several PhD students we only got it “right” about 70% of the time in the long run. And that all happened before the Internet and the Information age. How good have your predictions been Michael?

-100% so but the dots I connect are  high level.

• Islamic war
• EU
• Turkey and the EU; road toward membership
• The reconstruction of the Jewish Temple supported by the defecto Roman powers. ( Trump and Putin  in the future the EU most be on board )
• Frequency and intensity of Earthquakes on the increase
• Pandemics on the rise.

Is they any way we can test them? So back to my question above…..telling me you believe parts of the Bible to be true and telling me you have predicted the future does not work as a satisfactory answer. You are suggesting that the dead come back to life. I am asking what evidence you have found to support that, not what beliefs you hold about it or what you think those beliefs mean.

– I have no evidence .so the search continues

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