The Jews claim that the Messiah is here, but is he the real one?

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  • #45206
    Strega
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    I could really do with a prophecy regarding a horse race, or better still a lottery number. If one of those comes up, I’d be at least a little inclined to believe.

    Beasts and horns don’t really do it for me.  I’m glad you’re passionate about these things though. It’s nice to see joy, even interspersed with beasts 😉

    #45210
    TheEncogitationer
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    Reg,

    I have seen them debate the meaning to the Chug (as in sphere in Isaiah) for weeks.

    Are you sure they weren’t just having a wild Kegger Party where all participants would chant “Chug! Chug! Chug!” to each one who partakes of the Keg? 🍺😁

    #45211
    TheEncogitationer
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    Michael17,

    Essentially, assuming belief bares fruit.

    So a burlesque show, eh? I’m up for that (so to speak!). 😜

    #45212

    ……..and should people believe this, they will get eternal ‘life’.

    That is my ten second take. Is that your point?

    Essentially, assuming belief bares fruit.

    So Johan believes that He can communicate with the Creator of the Universe and Michael17 believes he will become an immortal.

    That’s my 5 second take. Am I misreading what you are plainly saying?

    #45214
    michael17
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    ……..and should people believe this, they will get eternal ‘life’. That is my ten second take. Is that your point? Essentially, assuming belief bares fruit. So Johan believes that He can communicate with the Creator of the Universe and Michael17 believes he will become an immortal. That’s my 5 second take. Am I misreading what you are plainly saying?

    The Marvel movie flopped. But our author has a  better script. 🙂

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    #45216

    But Michael you do expect to be officially made an immortal by the entity you believe to be the Creator of the Universe at some point in the future?

    Brother Johan can speak with his God anytime he wants to. Do you not think that is amazing? Can you do the same too Michael?

    #45219
    michael17
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    But Michael you do expect to be officially made an immortal by the entity you believe to be the Creator of the Universe at some point in the future? Brother Johan can speak with his God anytime he wants to. Do you not think that is amazing? Can you do the same too Michael?

    Unfortunately, I have found such claims  as false. They did not satisfy the rigor of being true.So there is the dichotomy of the written word being verified through historical events aligning with what is written and yet not a soul appears to be alive on earth to predict the future with unerring accuracy as the Apostles. As you may remember  I searched Jerusalem and Alaşehir Turkey for the members of the body of Christ to no avail. In fact not even the writings of the apostolic fathers heralded by the early church contain prophecies that authenticate Divine inspiration. Thus their has been a dearth of Divinely inspired individuals in the public at large.  I believe they exist, but the time has not come for those with the spirit and power of Elijah and Moses to commence their prophecies yet. It appears to coincide with the seventh week of years of the prophecy of Daniel, which. can only start after the construction of the third Temple, which is being planned now.

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    #45223
    Strega
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    Hi Michael, perhaps you’re looking in the wrong places. Have you been to Jamaica?  The Rastafarians in particular

    “The Twelve Tribes of Israel is a Rastafari religious group and one of the Mansions of Rastafari. Its headquarters is on Hope Road in Kingston, Jamaica. The group was formed in 1968 by Vernon Carrington, who was known to the organisation as “Prophet Gad”. “

    I met some Rastafarians at the Notting Hill Carnival one year. We sat around and played their religious drums and smoked their religious smoke. I vaguely remember understanding the entire universe for a while. When I woke up, the dream had unravelled somewhat, and we ate Jaffa cakes and laughed a lot.

    I might have asked about the future, but I don’t remember. Wouldn’t it be awful if I’d been given the Inspired Words of a Prophet, and wasted them (along with myself) one sunny Sunday in W11 ?!

    #45224
    jakelafort
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    Reason, ridicule, metaphor. Aine gonna matter.

    #45226

    @StregaI met some Rastafarians at the Notting Hill Carnival one year.

    I used to frequent “The Elgin” on Ladbooke Grove, which is on the Notting Hill Carnival rout. I worked nearby and would often get lunch there. It was a real dopers bar back then. I got to know some Rastafarians (they were even on Tops of the Pops) as they insisted I poured their Guinness because I was Irish and I smoked their weed. Cultural stereotyping was not a problem then :-). I resigned my job and hung out there for a few weeks.

    #45230
    michael17
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    Hi Michael, perhaps you’re looking in the wrong places. Have you been to Jamaica? The Rastafarians in particular “The Twelve Tribes of Israel is a Rastafari religious group and one of the Mansions of Rastafari. Its headquarters is on Hope Road in Kingston, Jamaica. The group was formed in 1968 by Vernon Carrington, who was known to the organisation as “Prophet Gad”. “ I met some Rastafarians at the Notting Hill Carnival one year. We sat around and played their religious drums and smoked their religious smoke. I vaguely remember understanding the entire universe for a while. When I woke up, the dream had unravelled somewhat, and we ate Jaffa cakes and laughed a lot. I might have asked about the future, but I don’t remember. Wouldn’t it be awful if I’d been given the Inspired Words of a Prophet, and wasted them (along with myself) one sunny Sunday in W11 ?!

    Most atheist would be open to listening to a Divinely inspired individual, if not only to test their salt. So it troubles me that so many may never have a chance to do that. My prayer is that those with the spirit and power of Elijah and Moses reveal themselves soon. We don’t need false Messiahs in Israel

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    #45232
    TheEncogitationer
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    Michael17,

    My name/profile is correct, no relations to Johan in name nor Christology. But the Christ mind is an actual genesis as I described. But as to which verse is correct, It depends on wether you addressing spiritually or bodily.

    You’re confusing your Atheists. I’m the one who asked about the two contradictory Bible verses. Jake and I are decidedly separate entities, both bodily and in terms of consciousness, whose primary shared trait is Atheism. 😁

    #45234
    TheEncogitationer
    Participant

    Reg,

    The menu and the visual ambiance of The Elgin look fantastic!

    I notice the sign above the bar says: “The El Gin Bar”. Since “El” is the Masculine Definite Article “The” in Spanish, is “The El Gin Bar” what you see after too much Gin and Tequila? 🥃🍸😜

    #45237

    Sometime the street was called Ladbrooke Groove…..

    #45243
    Johan
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    I still have no idea what the point of all these prophecies are, since they appear only to be recognisable after the event. It seems to me a useful prophecy might help you to avoid misfortune, or gain success. But if you only recognise that something was prophecy after the event, that would defeat the purpose.

    I totally agree with you Brother.  But mine is now and you can be part of it.  I invited some.  But maybe you missed it.  So get on the “bus” and get there and wittiness them firsthand in cyberspace.  Because God is everywhere and in cyberspace too of course.

    It’s a bit like reading last weeks Sagittarius horoscope and adapting it to fit whatever happened in your life and ‘interpreting’ the horoscope accordingly. Consequently, if a prophecy needs interpretation, it is immediately futile.

    I agree.  Now it is different with me.  Because those are the “Babies of God”.  I am a Wife of God.  Meaning an Adult God.  That is now vs the Baby Gods in the religions you see in the world.  Where they are all in human carnality in the evil spirit of strife.

    1 Cor 3: 1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? 5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

    Where they are Disciplined by their Dad with slavery.

    2 Cor. 11: 20 For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devouryou, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite u on the face.

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