The Jews claim that the Messiah is here, but is he the real one?

[jakelafort]

Johan, you need help.

Wife of god, a god? Have you only recently come to this conclusion? it is delusional.

Get help.

[Johan]

michael17 wrote:

TheEncogitationer wrote:

Michael17, Well, that’s as clear as mud. Is this “Jesus mind” available on an app store? 😁

You literally must be generated out of the Holy Spirit, as was Christ. You take on the divine nature as you become engrafted onto the spiritual body of Christ. And by all rights, empowered as the apostles. The only problem is finding those of his body to preside over the spiritual birth and baptism. Due to severe martyrdom by the Latin and Orthodox Rites over the centuries, they are few and far between.

I agree with you mostly, my Son.  There are always Someone by which you can grow Spiritually.  If you so desire and ask your Father to show you that Person.

Eph. 4: 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

Because God is everywhere and in cyberspace too of course.

Yes, expect he is all ‘Zeros’ and no ‘Ones’

[Johan]

michael17 wrote:

jakelafort wrote:

michael17/Johan you have not answered me why you are utilizing both names/profiles

My name/profile is correct, no relations to Johan in name nor Christology. But the Christ mind is an actual genesis as I described. But as to which verse is correct, It depends on wether you addressing spiritually or bodily.

I totally agree, my Son.  We are two different Persons.  And of different Spiritual Growth too.  If you are from an organization in strife then you are a Baby God.

1 Cor 3: 1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? 5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

All there are Disciplined by Dad with “slavery”.

2 Cor. 11: 20 For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devouryou, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite u on the face.

And Dad is breaking them down now.  As you will see in the Elijah of the Woman.  Just as John did in preparation of the Way of the Son.  And then the Ministry of the Son built that Relationship in just 3 days.  Now in these times the Family of God is built by the Woman.  Where a Family exists in a Wife and a Mother of course.

Rev. 21: 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

[Johan]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

@Johan – I will assist you to meet with Jesus and His Mother. Who are both a Reality now on earth. OK, an assist would be great?

Specially this one of course. Where I take you with me to my Existence in the world as a Wife and a Mother of God.

I have heard nothing about this and I have atheist contacts all over the world.

Strange, Brother.  I am all over the world in atheist groups.  Well that is now where they didn’t frantically looked for an excuse to ban me.  With a lie of course which I forgive them for.  I know I am really a “thorn in the flesh” of those fighting me.

I am celebrating Diwali today and my Hindu friends were amazed when I told them this.

Invite them Brother, invite them.  There is no limit on the space available on this “cyberbus” of God.

But they don’t grasp the profound importance of this information as they just keep asking me if I gave up Catholicism as I am a vegetarian. I don’t think they will be able to help me here.

Yep.  They will not be able to help you.  But they don’t need to. They just need to board the “bus” to make the party so much more fun.

I will ask my Jewish scholar friends in Harvard and in Eilat if they have heard about this.

Perfect.  The more the merrier.  Specially from different groups of “thinking” of course.  This might make it an even longer party than the 3 years I spend with the Atheists. 

Before I forget.  I meant to say this now many times already.  After my struggle in the beginning to get fimiliar with this program and its operation I am really now amazed about the easy and the power in which it does its linking and quoting.  I think in my 15 years on the internet i am having me best experience yet.  Good job!  It can not be missed.  Now it is up to me to make good use of it.  Because messing this up will entirely be just my mistake.

 

They are usually on top of their game when it comes to such matters.

All try to be.  But of course not all have yet met with the Woman of God.  But it might be an “interesting experience” for them.  And as for me.  I will just Love to be with our Kids.  And making them One of course.  In One Family of Dad.

 I will be meeting with some Ahmadiyya Muslims at the weekend and I will ask them as they are board members of a worldwide Muslim alliance.

I am amazed!  You really have contacts from a huge variety of human “thinking schools”.  Just remember Dad’s Bus which He are giving for Free of course.  Because everything from Him is always “For Free”.

I have regular debates with Jehovah Witnesses and not a word about it from them have I heard.

It just gets better and better.  But don’t worry.  It is a “cyberbus”.  But seems it is going to be the “party of the year”?

But if it is really a reality now on Earth that they are both here and you really want to assist me could you send me there address for starters? Just to get the ball rolling.

And why should I sent your their addresses when you should ask them personally yourself, Brother?  I am taking you to them, remember.  And you will not even need to ask their addresses.  Because you will be with them in their houses.  And you can just go out and look the street name and the number outside the house.

They are not in Wyoming by any chance? I once heard Jesus just left Chicago and was reported to be on His way to New Orleans as anything is possible for Him, in my opinion.

According to the Bible every eye will see Him.  And every eye can see Her too.  And then there is even “Baby Jesus”.  She grew up and is now 6 years old and Rebuking the organizations in the world of Christianity.  And with her you can speak any time you want to.  Of course the present Life of their Mommy is also clearly seen in the Holy War she just concluded. 

My only Hope for you is that you entered the Bus.  Because if you didn’t then you will see nothing of course.  It is God’s Spiritual Bus.  And you just received the route and all the “stopping points”.  And you can decide where you want to jump of now.  Because in the Spiritual Bus you are at all the “stopping points” at the same moment in time.  Amazing!

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[Johan]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

So Johan believes that He can communicate with the Creator of the Universe and Michael17 believes he will become an immortal. That’s my 5 second take. Am I misreading what you are plainly saying?

Well that is about right for 5 sec, Brother.  But of course these Atheists had a 3 year take.  And yours might be longer and might also be everlasting.  For some it is.  Because there is actually no end to this “take from God”.  You can take as much as your feel for.  Maybe some already left for a more “interesting take” somewhere else?

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[Johan]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Brother Johan can speak with his God anytime he wants to. Do you not think that is amazing?

What is actually “more amazing” is that I am doing it as His first Wife and the first Mother of His Kids.  In all of the whole world and all the years that passed up to now.  But of course in future there will be more.  I am introducing all now to the Possibility from their Dad.  Because to most He has just been their Dad up to now.

[Johan]

michael17 wrote:

I believe they exist, but the time has not come for those with the spirit and power of Elijah and Moses to commence their prophecies yet.

You do know that the spirit and power of the Elijah has been vindicated by the Son.

Mat. 17: 12  But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

And now the spirit of the Elijah is here again.  And being vindicated by the Woman.

[Johan]

Strega wrote:

Hi Michael, perhaps you’re looking in the wrong places. Have you been to Jamaica?

Yep.   He should have asked God who is His Father and would have Loved to give him the right place.  But such is “Baby Life” in the church organizations.  Where they are no growing up to be the Church themselves.  Where God their Dad stays inside them and having a totally open Relationship all the time.  You agree, my Son, @Michael17?

[Johan]

jakelafort wrote:

Reason, ridicule, metaphor. Aine gonna matter.

I agree, Brother.  God is the Living God.  And we look for Reality.  Which is Lived and can be seen and verified and studied.

[Johan]

michael17 wrote:

My prayer is that those with the spirit and power of Elijah and Moses reveal themselves soon. We don’t need false Messiahs in Israel

Agree, my Son.  They are here at last.  But they are Spirit and not many will accept the Spiritual Existence of God.  But they will see the Wind blowing and the trees Moving.

[Johan]

jakelafort wrote:

Johan, you need help. Wife of god, a god? Have you only recently come to this conclusion? it is delusional. Get help.

It is not a “conclusion”, Brother.  But a Creation by God Himself.  And where I am Living all can see that it is Reality.  Even the family I am staying with in their house.

For 2000 years the Kids of God are in the world.   And now the Wife and Mother is here you are suddenly acting “ignorant”?

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[Johan]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Because God is everywhere and in cyberspace too of course. Yes, expect he is all ‘Zeros’ and no ‘Ones’

Yep.  The human mind can “expect a lot” of things.  But there is only One Reality, Brother.

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

@Johan, I have no idea what you mean by “first wife”. Who proposed to whom? Who are his other wives? I don’t know what you mean by a “living god”.  It would be of no use if He were a dead one? What does His voice sound like when you are in communication? Is Hebrew or Aramaic your lingua franca when in conversation?

Can you also support any of what you are talking about with evidence? And please don’t keep quoting scripture. That is meaningless to us when we don’t believe your god exists in the first place. A lot of what who are writing here seems nonsensical to us. Many of us know nothing about Christianity so you might as well be talking about Poseidon.

Could you start by giving us a coherent description of this God so we can come to know what you mean. Stop telling us it is on Facebook. Some of us see Facebook as vulgar and immoral and a corrupter of human decency so we don’t have FB accounts.

 

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

@Johan – You also seem to suggest you are one of the immortals too or I misreading what you seem to be saying?

But there is only One Reality, Brother.

My reality contains nothing of that you have spoken about. There are almost 8 billion realities. They are all subjective to each individual human. There are deductions made based upon our understandings about the universe that can be seen as objective building blocks to a shared reality that many people can agree on and form their own subjective realities from. There are also shared faith based ideas that are interwoven into the worldviews of  people who accept some of the same objective building blocks that atheists do and then mesh them with their accepted religious views of the world. From their they create their own versions of reality. But just because we can only hold one view of reality at at time, it does not mean that our version is the only version or that it is the correct version.

Every time we get a new understanding about the natural world and how it relates to us, our version of reality is changed. This may lead us towards what we can consider to be universal truths. But to cling to what we might call an unchanging truth is a mistake. To change, adapt and evolve is human. Gods exists only in peoples minds.

If you think I am mistaken then explain why and with some supporting evidence. Then I will adapt my version. I am happy to embrace you god and reject my atheism if you can offer me something that gets me there. I will consider any objective evidence that you put on the table. Then I will get on the bus.

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