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[Simon Paynton]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

What Is Ockham’s Razor?

Ockham’s Razor is a useful way to think, but people try to apply it to moral theory sometimes, where it doesn’t work.  The simpler explanation is not always the better one.

[Simon Paynton]

_Robert_ wrote:

Or maybe we are merely consciously informed of the decision we believe we made, since the brain is just matter and energy,

Maybe it’s matter and energy that has the faculty of free will.

[jakelafort]

Simon, do you suppose the genesis of general intelligence in
AI is the one and only way that free will is possible?

Unless i misunderstand your viewpoint free will is limited.

Or is it matter in motion like turtles all the way down?

[Simon Paynton]

jakelafort wrote:

do you suppose the genesis of general intelligence in AI is the one and only way that free will is possible?

I don’t know anything about AI.  I’m talking about living brains.  Free will is limited by influences, restrictions and circumstances.

[jakelafort]

Ok, Simon, so i understood your viewpoint.

And whether you perceive any freedom or not it is an utterly ignorant position taken by those who posit unfettered free will.

If you have messed with Chat gpt or any other LLM from introduction to now it is remarkable the progress. If it evolves complete independence of human control/programming it will be free of the biological crap that is inseparable from our identity. No past trauma, hormones, gut bacteria, viruses etc to cause or influence to use your word behavior. There is still the issue of physics. But it is a clearer path to freedom. I think?

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

When Chat-GPT gets to use the new Willow quantum chip, it might consider itself to have freewill. 🙂

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