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Sunday School May 25th 2025
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June 2, 2025 at 2:52 am #57588
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake,
Yeah Enco you are debating the allegations and avoiding whataboutism. Reminds me of law. HEARSAY! Hearsay as a general rule is not admissible. Objection, hearsay! The proponent counters with one of the exceptions to the rule like excited utterance. “Oh my fucking god that guy is naked in public and trying to make that goat pregant!” Earmarks of reliability in being an honest account of what the witness saw. So the whataboutism/hearsay is no good in one context and good in another.
Goat impregnation is not found in the gravament or the evidence or even in the mind of this particular evidence-seeker. What is the legalese for: “Whutchutalkin’boutWillis?”
June 2, 2025 at 4:20 am #57589
jakelafortParticipantEnco,
“Oh my fucking god that guy is naked in public and trying to make that goat pregant!”
Oh my fucking god that guy is naked in public and trying to impregnate that goat! Neither ring quite true as excited utterances.
Ok so i am assuming you want a more detailed explanation of hearsay and exceptions to hearsay rule. Hearsay is defined as an out of court statement being offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted. If the witness testifies that she was at the scene and heard the plaintiff excitedly ejaculate, ““Oh my fucking god that guy is naked in public and trying to make that goat pregant!” opposing counsel has a legal basis to object to that statement as hearsay. But the proponent can rebut the objection by indicating it is an excited utterance and therefore should be admitted into evidence.
Why the exception? Because there is less chance of dissimulation when someone is SHOCKED and expressing themselves in that moment of surprise.
Have not heard the word gravamen in years which must indicate i have been sans law practice for many moons. I will tell ya the gravamen of the lefty lamentation. They’re Jews and having created an infantile framework to understand history we can calumniate the shit out of them. Ya know if it were lets say 1952 and i had to write fiction about the trajectory of the liberal party in a way that was pejorative and highlight how far afield it would go from achieving its objectives and adhering to its principles i would fail to go far enough. It is truly mind bending stupidity of so many who are well educated and in many instances well intentioned sheeple.
June 2, 2025 at 3:55 pm #57591
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake,
Ok so i am assuming you want a more detailed explanation of hearsay and exceptions to hearsay rule.
No, I was wondering what’s with the fixation with goat impregnation. This serves no end except as an ipicac.
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June 2, 2025 at 4:17 pm #57593
UnseenParticipantIf Anti-Israel protesters have other accusations, I am open to hearing them.
Problems of sufficiency, distribution, and security of aid would not be problems if Israel were genocidal, because a genocidal Israel wouldn’t even bother with sending or allowing aid. And the UN has never been an impartial reporter or aid dispenser, since it had Hamas members in its midst.
The way Israel distributes food is designed to be harmful. The drop off pallets of food and then rather than setting up a fair system of distribution, it becomes the law of the jungle in terms of who gets fed. The worst of the worst get food and those who are weak or slow are left to waste away and die. It’s animalistic and inhumane to feed desperate, starving people this way and could qualify as a war crime. They also actively attack outsiders trying to bring in humanitarian assistance.
Also, no aid would be needed if Hamas didn’t start the pogrom on October 7th and drag Palestinian civilians along for the crazy train.
Using similar logic, European Jews could have set up death camps to exterminate Germans.
All countries are “artificial” because they are human creations. Also, Czechoslovakia divided amicably without bloodshed and both halves interact peacefully.
How quickly people forget. The creation of Czechoslovakia resulted in terrible bloody conflicts and pogroms.
The creation of Czechoslovakia in 1918 after the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire led to several conflicts and significant internal tensions.
Here’s a breakdown of the conflicts and reasons behind them:
Ethnic Diversity and Minority Issues: Czechoslovakia was formed as a multi-ethnic state, comprising not only Czechs and Slovaks but also significant minorities of Germans (especially in the Sudetenland), Hungarians, Poles, and Ruthenians.
Sudeten Germans: The inclusion of predominantly German-speaking areas (Sudetenland) within Czechoslovakia, against the principle of self-determination, caused immediate and lasting resentment. These Germans openly agitated against the territorial settlements and later, with the rise of Nazi Germany, became a major source of internal and external pressure, ultimately leading to the Munich Agreement and the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia in 1938.
Hungarians: Similarly, territories with a Hungarian majority were included in Czechoslovakia, leading to agitation and revisionist claims from Hungary.
Poles: There were border disputes with Poland, particularly over the Cieszyn Silesia (Teschen) region, which led to armed conflict in 1919 (the “Seven-Day War”) and continued tensions. Poland also gained some territories from Czechoslovakia after the Munich Agreement.
Czech-Slovak Tensions: While the Czechs and Slovaks formed the core of the new state, they had different historical, cultural, and social traditions. Slovaks often felt that the state was predominantly Czech and that their voice was not strong enough. This underlying tension contributed to the eventual peaceful dissolution of Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovakia in 1992.
Border Disputes with Neighbors: The newly formed state faced disputes with its neighbors over territorial claims:Poland: As mentioned, the conflict over Cieszyn Silesia was a significant early flashpoint.
Hungary: Hungary claimed territories with a Hungarian majority, leading to border disputes and lingering resentment.
Austria: There were early armed battles in southern Moravia between Viennese troops and Czech forces as Austria initially struggled to accept an independent Czechoslovakia.
Internal Violence and Instability: In the immediate aftermath of World War I, the newly formed Czechoslovakia, like other countries in the region, experienced social breakdown, a wave of violence, and criminality, including anti-Jewish violence.
In summary, while Czechoslovakia aimed to be a democratic and stable state, its creation brought together diverse populations with differing national aspirations and historical grievances, leading to internal ethnic tensions and external border conflicts that significantly impacted its stability and ultimately contributed to its later dissolution.(Source: Gemini AI)
June 2, 2025 at 5:20 pm #57595
jakelafortParticipantEnco,
It seems i really got your goat. Goat love is your emetic. Imagine a peripatetic goat fucker, worse a peripatetic sucker fucker of goats! Ya know with the goat facing the cliff and barriers on either side of that poor goat. Now posit a Muslim being true to Islam. I will take the goat fucker.
But yea globalize the intifada. Nice little murder job of the happy couple about to be married in Washington. Now the flame thrower for Jews who were supporting the hostages. This is so inspirational. Are you the holder of the flamethrower from Boulder? If so you are heroic. May others follow in your footsteps and judgenrein like a mutha. Just imagine the wonderful state of affairs when the cleansing is finished and the caliphate is supreme. Freedom. Let Jewfree freedom ring!
June 2, 2025 at 8:58 pm #57596
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake,
Of course the Jew-haters in our streets are sickening too! I’ve been on your side all alone here.
I’m just saying that Goat-Talk vs. God-Talk is the Greatest-Of-All-Time False Dilemma Fallacies. You’d expect this from Apologetics but not from rational thinkers. I’m sure J-Street-ers and AIPAC-ers would agree with me and say: “Get off goat and get off the goat-getn’-offn’!”. It doesn’t serve. The goat will thank you as well. 🐐
June 2, 2025 at 11:28 pm #57597
TheEncogitationerParticipantUnseen,
Gemini AI didn’t mention that there was no October 7th in Czechoslavak history after it broke up, and after they went their separate ways, neither the Czech Republic’s legitimacy nor Slavakia’s legitimacy was ever questioned, and no ethnicity was blamed for every evil in the world. And no one wanted to bring “The Seven Day War” to every street in the world.
Ask Gemini AI when a nation is “Artificial” and when it is “Natural” and when it is “Ultra-Processed.”
June 3, 2025 at 1:33 am #57598
jakelafortParticipantThis guy is pro israel and pretty much a straight shooter. “Tell me in what other war has a country supplied humanitarian aid to its enemy?” This thought has occurred to me repeatedly. When the allies were terror bombing the Germans they were sending food? When the Germans were killing civilians and causing the worst humanitarian conditions in Stalingrad they were feeding the Russian civilians? No but they did murder a great many of them as they invaded Russia. I mean it is endless. The double standards and higher standards are painfully obvious. Israel provides a kinder gentler genocide in which humanitarian aid is delivered and leaflets warning civilians to gtfo and warn others to do same along with telephone calls and requiring legal authorization and a legal analysis before dropping bombs or striking and having the best civilian to fighter ration in history of urban conflict. Can you even imagine if every war received half the scrutiny that this one does and then it was covered by actual journalists who attempted to convey reality? People die in war. What a revelation. And yet the play continues without any correction from the left. Endless misinformation and lies. Just keep reenforcing the lies and smearing Jews. Genocide, genocide, genocide, genocide. Real low life shit that perpetuates Palestinians suffering and vulnerability of Israelis and Jews the world over.
The western media that is lefty automatically and mindlessly repeats the “news” promulgated by Hamas. Never mind how many false reports have been discovered. And the lefty’s like frogs in a pond being turned on before mating thrive in the emotion elicited by the reports of evil Jews. Uniquely evil and always the oppressors, never the oppressed. Yeah there is hope for humanity. In a goat’s eyes…
June 3, 2025 at 5:06 am #57600
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake,
Armin Navabi, who runs Atheist Republic, does a superb job of defending Israel, trashing the Mullahs of his homeland of Iran, as well as giving a balanced thrashing of Abrahamic, Vedic, and Oriental religions. Here’s his YouTube site, with links to the main Atheist Republic site and his other social sites:
https://youtube.com/@atheistrepublic?feature=shared
A lot of long videos, but also lots of thoughtful shorts.
Best of all, he doesn’t make goats collateral damage in the clash of humanity versus religion. 😉
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June 3, 2025 at 6:47 am #57604
TheEncogitationerParticipantFor some reason, my post don’t show up initially and I end up repeating. Here below is my post.
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June 3, 2025 at 7:05 am #57605
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake and Unseen,
Here, Armin Navabi shows footage of Gazans getting aid from the Gaza Humanitarian Fund (GHF) and praising both the U.S. and Trump for the aid, as well as condemning Hamas:
https://www.youtube.com/live/o_R5qTijcpc?si=-fXBpm5SFSsfPCNw
Armin also gives a fair criticism of GHF that it has a logistical problem with organization, letting some get 50 boxes while others got none. However. He pointed out that this problem is solvable and it dwarves the fact that Hamas shot Gazans for seeking aid from outsiders and that Hamas warehoused food aid away from Gazans and sold it to Gazans at inflated prices to buy weapons for terror.
Basically. Hamas is practicing the Stalinist tactic of using food as a weapon against it’s subjects.
In other videos, Armin Navabi shows he is no MAGA man and criticizes Trump for continuing Obama’s and Biden’s appeasement of the Mullahs in Iran and their nuclear weapons aspirations, as well as Trump snubbing Israel.
Armin Navabi so far is evidenced-based and goes where evidence leads him.
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June 3, 2025 at 1:16 pm #57610
jakelafortParticipantEnco,
From my vantage your post showed up originally and now is linkless. I was not familiar with that guy. Listened to him for an hour or so while i handicpapped equines. Just a little too verbose for my liking. So nothing against his analytical capability just not my cup of goat cheese. Reminds me of Rachel Maddow. She drives me nuts. Get to the goddamn point Rachel!
The guy i linked has knowledge of Jewish history. He is quite analytical, fact dependent, unemotional, concise and challenges some lefty morons. Demonstrates how illogical and ahistorical their contentions are. He has repeatedly demonstrated how the entire mythology and narrative is intended to demonize Israel and Jews. Exposes so much and does it economically.
Speaking of Trump he turns out to be a real pussy. How many times has use of military been evil and misplaced. Well Iran right now is so close to nuclear capability and a nation of people who are not sympathetic and in fact hate the IRG and is ripe for overthrow and yet Trump is playing into their hands. I knew or thought i knew Iran would just stall him and come to find out their word means nothing based on islamic doctrine anyhow. He should have brought power instead of withdrawing as much military might and in closest proximity and made an ultimatum. Destroy the shit by x date within a few days or we will destroy it and you. We can give you a one way ticket to 72 virgins. Have a nice day. That regime is so ready to be toppled and with it the threat of nuclear war and the terror proxies who are supported by Iran.
June 4, 2025 at 1:31 am #57619
jakelafortParticipantEvery Jew a 22, stay alive with a 45.
Catchy. Like useful idiots.
So i was wondering what Dawkins meant in his famous quote…god of the old testament is arguably the most unpleasant charcter in all fiction…sadomasochistic capriciously malevolent bully…
Sadistic for sure. Where is the masochism? It is the willingness to entertain prayers? Billions upon billions of prayers. And the annoyance that occurs in having a plan and needing to alter that plan based on mortals who do not know well. Or does that creator use quantum computing to process or answer prayers and avoid masochism. Is it something about Jesus is god and the sacrifice of jesus is masochism? Something else?
June 4, 2025 at 4:57 pm #57624
TheEncogitationerParticipantJake,
Every Jew a 22, stay alive with a 45.
Ah, you’ve seen the good side of the steel-and-brass pill.
So i was wondering what Dawkins meant in his famous quote…god of the old testament is arguably the most unpleasant charcter in all fiction…sadomasochistic capriciously malevolent bully…
I’ve never understood that Dawkins quote either. The God of the Old Testament destroyed the world once. The God of the New Testament and the Qu’ran destroyed the world once and wants to do it again. Once again. a distinction without difference.
June 4, 2025 at 5:59 pm #57628
jakelafortParticipantEnco,
As far as that bearing arms amendment and what i want is good regulations and major penalties for arms bearers failing to attain the requirements beforehand. Prove you know what you are doing with a gun safety course or test passed. No sales to minors. No weapons that are ridiculously lethal. Just reasonable shit. Damn straight that some people really need weapons for self defense and the government has a role in safety of ALL but no right to deny unreasonably.
Maybe Dawkins was just feeling expansive and the masochism part means nada but that line is a humdinger. Out of the blue it is one of many i recite.
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