Dang Martin

@Unseen, so I can have an ad hominem dog bite? I know it’s an extreme, I’m using it to test your basis of definition.

I actually understand the term “ad hominem attack”. It’s when you attack the person rather than the subject matter. I think we’re all good with that, and it makes sense.

I’m still a bit perplexed over ‘ad hominem fallacy”. Is…[Read more]

@Unseen. So when my dog greets me and jumps up, it’s an ad hominem greeting? When I get a birthday card, it’s an ad hominem message?

@Unseen, I get it despite the example you typed. I think it can be taken as read that you gave definitions that work for you. What is at question, is whether there exists a formal external definition, where we can all point to and agree.

However, defining “ad hominem” as literally anything opposing the person means that a punch on the nose…[Read more]

Anyway, getting the same email notification more than once happened a lot on TA. Weird that it happens here as well.

If you check the box at the bottom of your post saying ‘notify me of follow up replies by email’ you get an email every time someone posts to that thread. If someone mentions you as @Unseen then you get an email to tell you…[Read more]

@Unseen. None of the examples you provided point to the difference between “fallacy” and “attack” when appended to “ad hominem”

@Unseen. I think the point is that there is no objective definition of the difference between “attack” and “fallacy” when they are appended to the term “ad hominem”.

@Davis seems to appreciate that you have a personal definition difference, but alleges that your definitions are just that. Personal.

What would be interesting is if there were…[Read more]

Or worse, someone pushing a big red button to make all atheists born-again Christians. Keep your damn buttons!

I think the effect of pressing your button, @Davis, would be instant madness and mayhem, maybe decades later settling in to some kind of improvement, but at what cost? You can’t throw away the crutches before you heal the patient.…[Read more]

I agree. Prejudism is a learned trait whatever the subject matter. I was just trying to clarify a confusing statement 🙂

@Davis. Re your huh?, I was also busy huffing, but I had another read of Unseens comments and I realize he is simply pointing out that racism and being gay aren’t comparable in that we believe we are born with our sexual orientation, whereas we learn racism.