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Strega said:

No man may speak if a women is singing. So if the man decides not to say what his woman wants, she starts to sing. All business stops. In support, other women join in the singing. You can see where this is going, can’t you?! So now who controls the meetings?

Ha ha. A filibuster.

• This reply was modified 10 years, 9 months ago by erock68la.

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“Can you be wrong by yourself? Or is veracity rooted in community consensus?”

True is true even if no one believes it. False is false even if everyone believes it. Yes, you can be wrong all by yourself.

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Should none of the scripture be taken just as it is written? Or just the “good” parts? Or just the “good” parts that don’t specifically call for action?

I understand not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but in this case the bathwater is a toxic, festering, bubbling, green sludge pool of a bath and the baby is drowning and poisoned beyond any possibility of recovery.

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Nerdy Keith said:

It doesn’t, it only proves that some people had extreme views and took an ideology too far.

By “too far” do you mean they follow the scripture literally, as it is written? What’s too far? To actually kill the people it says to kill? Is it too far to just hate and threaten the people it says to kill? Is it too far to try and use political influence and the power of government to discriminate against the people the scripture says to kill?

It’s difficult to say how deep is too deep into a poisonous ideology.

• This reply was modified 10 years, 10 months ago by erock68la.

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@Strega
I have witnessed on occasion southerners become a little extra-southern in the presence of non-southerners. The accent becomes a little thicker and the language and expressions a little more colorful. I wonder if you experienced some of that.

It sounds like you were in mah neck o’ the woods. I live about 30-45 minute drive east of Baton Rouge.

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So all it removes is the belief in god? What about the memory of belief in god? For many that belief is the glue that holds their fragile psyche together.
It would be very tempting to rid the world of it and let the chips fall where they may. But I agree with Strega, “madness and mayhem”, so no.

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I was born and raised in Louisiana and I never once heard a real person say “War of Northern Aggression”. I’ve only ever heard it said in movies by actors doing a bad imitation of a southern accent. I don’t know who “the people down there” are who say that but I never met them.
That being said, there are plenty of toothless morons who fly their flag hoping the south’s gon do it agin.

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Apples and oranges, Bob.

If a candidate touts himself as a champion for “family values” people should know if he is frequenting hookers or banging pages.
If a candidate preaches fiscal responsibility then his own financial records should be made available.

And besides, not many successful national politicians ever ran against predatory banking and actually did something about it after winning office. They would most likely reduce predatory banking by redefining what “predatory” means.

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Pleased to meet you.

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I think the purpose of these arguments is not to definitively disprove god, but rather to attempt to meet theists where they are in their thinking and to get them to recognize just one inconsistency in what they think. Many theists wear their delusional belief systems like a suit of armor, and arguments like the problem of evil or inconsistencies in the bible, etc. try to find the chink in that armor.
For myself, once I allowed myself to accept the obvious conclusion of one such argument all the rest of it quickly fell apart like a house of cards.
Having already gone through all that on my own journey those arguments don’t do much for me now, but I did need to go through that phase to get where I am now. Now, arguing over the behaviors of god is like arguing over whether vampires are afraid of garlic or sparkle in sunlight – nonsense.

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To be honest, your smiting of late has been lackluster. Kind of ho-hum. I almost can’t tell your powers apart from natural occurrences. I can tell your heart’s not in it. And Hollywood shows more imagination.

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@Bob
Yes, god is exactly like climate change, except for all the evidence for climate change.
“Mocking and belittling others not like us”? Got yourself a little pot and kettle thing going there, don’t ya?

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@Davis

Ya know what could help when they slack off in their constant adoration of you? Smite ’em. Send ’em a hurricane or a tsunami or something. That’ll whip ’em into shape and make you feel better at the same time.

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So are you suggesting, as the eugenics movement did, that humans should select breeding partners based on social desirability of offspring, rather than on love and commitment to each other?

Uh, no. I’m suggesting that people are capable of making considered and deliberate choices about who they will and won’t breed with, based on whatever the hell criteria is important to them.

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@Bob
Do you have a source to back up your claim that “early Darwinist eugenicists” wrote sterilization laws and not good ole god-fearin’ white guys?

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